Do you believe that making UK knife offenders visit victims in hospitals is the fix for knife crime?

Question

You realy couldn't make it up could you?

Answer 1

Having worked with ex-offenders i have seen it work.    But it is more 'butch' to sound tough (even if it is inneffective) isn't it?

Answer 2

Not even close.

Answer 3

No the problem is people who take out knives do not think through the consequences of using the knife before they use it. Once the big mistake has been made and the knife has been used against somebody else, and seriously injured or killed them it is TOO LATE and visiting the victim in hospital is not going to save you from going to jail nor from wrecking your life by your mistake.

There is only one "fix".  That is DON'T TAKE KNIVES out.

Answer 4

NOT AT ALL

Answer 5

Many criminals have no remorse, so all it would do is make the victim feel fear.

Answer 6

Maybe they should ban knives.

Answer 7

WHAT! If you'd been stabbed, why the h**l would you want to see your attacker again?! And it's hardly going to make a difference to the attacker to see the victim in hospital if they're crazy enough to stab someone in the first place.

The police should spend more time on the streets catching people and bring in a higher penalty for possession of knives.

Answer 8

I really feel bad for those folks having to watch their country be ripped apart like that. My wife is a London Refugee and all she can say is, thank god for the USA.

She doesn't realize we are going the same route, just a little slower.

Answer 9

No!

I blame the parents for not  taking enough to do with their kids,if my 2 son's did ne thing like that,they would have h**l 2 pay from me.

There isnt enough things for youths to do these days,they dont appreciate nething thats done for them.

Answer 10

It's no better than putting these eejits onto community service programmes. They still have absolutely no respect and find it a "badge of honour"..Jings, they even get kitted out with the best workwear and safety equipment which us taxpayers are paying for!!!

Answer 11

That is amazing.  What next, child rapists required to visit their victims as a means of "healing"?  Good grief, this world has gone nuts.

Answer 12

No.

Answer 13

No, stab em back its the only way. Me thinks a Cull is required.

Answer 14

If you already knifed someone then I doubt you'll feel remorse visiting them in hospital.

There is only one way, make kids feel safer and then we can root out the real bad ones.  I once considered carrying a knife because there was some bad kids in my area, I was smart enough not to do it though.

By weeding out the real bad ones from the scared ones then there won't be knife problems, so get policemen out of the office and onto the street. I know I'd have felt safer if there was a few policeman where I hanged around (mind you I wouldn't have wanted them to hassle me either)

Answer 15

I think that the victims should be given priority. Why would anyone want some scumbag visiting them in hospital? That's ridiculous. It's making the solution to the crime the responsibility of the victim. How stupid.

Are the offenders not expected to take responsibility for their own actions?

The criminals could be locked up together and allowed to stab each other to death for all I care. We'd either get rid of them all at once or they'd learn for themselves to be civilized.

Answer 16

No, but it is PC thinking. Something to do with shaming them. Doesn't work with these sorts of people, particularly boys.

Answer 17

Showing them the dead bodies might have more of an effect,Look what you did.

Answer 18

Jacqui Smith will be look on by the next generation as the worst Home Secretary ever. Just who is going to benefit by the perpetrator visiting the victim in hospital, she hopes the perpetrator will feel some remorse. Then become a new reformed citizen, not a chance. What about the victims, what do they think about this big idea. That thought will have never passed through her mind. I suggest that JS sees the perpetrator as the victim.

If she wants things to change then she must ditch many of the ideas generated by the do-gooders over the past 40 years. We need punishments that fit the crime; we don’t need criminals particularly you criminal being let off with a warning and a slapped wrist. That's a signal to commit further  criminal acts. First we need to abandon the European Human Rights Act and substitute for UK Human Rights Act. The basis of which will be the rights of the victim. Also at the forefront would be the treatment of the perpetrators of crime. Corporal punishment, the cane, the birch would options that could be applied to lawbreakers. Jail sentences would be on the basis of “hard labour” and penal servitude”. There would be no p***y footing around the prison would bare no resemblance to a Billy Butlin establishment. These would tough regimes, treadmills to provide electricity, stone breaking by hand, chain gangs doing environment clean ups and conservation work. Sure teach them the three As if they are lacking in that way.

Any teenager caught carrying a knife without a lawful reason would get 5 strokes of the birch on their bare backside. Their parents / guardians and siblings would be compelled to watch. The knife carrier and his / her parents would be compelled to attend citizenship classes very Saturday between the hours of 11am till 7pm in the evening. They would be given homework which must be return on the following Saturday. This would be a specific course lasting three months at the end of which would be an exam. Failure to pass this exam would mean attending the course from beginning to end again. Failure to attend would be punishable by ten strokes of the birch.

If you followed the regime outlined above knife crime would cease after the first birching.

What we really need to do is start to educate these teenage criminals in their formative years. They need to lean early what is right and what is wrong. They need to be punished for every wrongdoing, I am not taking heavy handed rebukes, perhaps a slap in the first instance as an immediate response, with an escalating response.

When my kids were naughty  I used to poke them in the shoulder with my forefinger, just like my dad did to me. I  only had to do it twice by then they had learned the lesson.

I would like to see JS bringing in compulsory parenting classes at the first sign of their offspring getting out of hand. Lets put an end to the namby pamby treatment of teenage criminal and their parents. That’s the common sense thing to do. If Jacqui Smith did the things I have suggested she would be come a heroine over night, there would be cheering in the street, she would be feted as the great innovator prevention of crime and become the protector of the ordinary people.. Lets make a start tomorrow Home Secretary

Answer 19

I don't think there is such a thing as a fix. It's a cultural problem and social engineering is tricky and full of potholes.

But the suggestion is rather a commonsense one that involves interaction between people instead of just more paperwork and policies. It might work for someone. Knife-wielding offenders are people too.

Answer 20

Personally I'd dearly like to do the same, punishment same as crime....kill the offenders with the same weapon....but that won't happen so long as we have sooooooo many do gooders about. It's got to do do with upbringing. Some parents have not the balls to do anything. How many times have I heard or read " Oh my little boy mixed with the wrong crowd".....Spend time with yr kid instead of having coffee times and sitting on yr fat **** slagging the neighbours off etc.....and not knowing what your kids are up to!!!

Answer 21

nah, 3 years jail time just for carrying one. 25 years for using one, regardless whether the victim dies or not.

Answer 22

Respect to you and much peace my friend.

Discipline is what is required and it starts when a child is born until the day he dies in 80 years time. The family unit is broken, there needs to be more incentives for people to marry and raise children properly, and children need to be encouraged to do good things by nurturing the scouts and guides (in fact all youth) organisations, and encouraging children to be good by rewarding them in the right ways. We need to teach them basic life skill, to respect each other, to help each other, to teach them sport and outdoor things.

As for the do good idiot MP that came up with 'knifers' visiting victims, I would say they should take big reality check and get back to a time when country used to work just fine before they messed things up so bad for us.

Answer 23

there is only one answer bring back the birch

10 strikes for procession  

100 strikes for actual use of knife