Do you ever feel like it's never the student it's always quality of instruction?

Question

Like in my MMA gym students are tough like nails and give it 100%. But sometimes I feel like they need detailed and quality instructions. By the way I'm a student not instructor. Like BJJ students are just thrown out there and it takes them a whole bunch of time to learn. Whenever I grapple with someone and they're new I explain stuff to them. If they don't know how to defend against a choke or something. On the other hand when I was a beginner there were people who's use the same move 4 times over and I wouldn't learn anything from it.

Same thing with my boxing. I can't seem to figure out a whole bunch of stuff on my own. Like how to throw a good hook. And I seem to be figuring it on trial and error basis, or looking up videos on youtube and seeing in slow motion. I was told they're all good instructors so maybe there's an approach issue, maybe students should show each other more stuff.

What do you think?

Answer 1

There was a question on this a couple of weeks ago.

You are absolutely correct on your assumption.

Without those details, the student will have to figure things out themselves.

There are those who advocate "throwing them in the fire" - "they'll figure it out". To me, that is a load of S**t. I really dislike that mentality.

You are going to be an excellent teacher.

I just wish more people had the kind of wisdom it takes to understand how important this is.

(xoenhit, what do you study and with who?)

Answer 2

are you saying your in a mcdojo?

find a teacher that suits your learning style

one that gives detailed and quality instruction

Answer 3

the best way to learn something is to do it. a lot.

that being said, it's very important to be shown proper technique. so, if you're having trouble with your boxing, tell your instructor. he should help. it's his job, isn't it?

Answer 4

Hi there

I think its actually a bit of both. Instructors vary just like teachers do in schools. A good instructor should have practical knowledge along with theory. The rest is down to their character as to how well they can put it across to the student. Just because you can do it doesnt make you a good teacher.

Students on the other hand vary. If i find when i am training that i dont seem to be getting anything from an uke then i wont train with them. You will often find that the students who rush techniques or attempt them using extreme amounts of force dont really know what their doing. Both parties have to help and teach each other. Training with constant resistance is no good for learning as is training with a compliant uke. There has to be a middle ground in order to gain anything from it. Any idiot can apply strength.

The approach to learning is to first study the technique practice it slowly and work through each part in stages. All techniques have a beginning a middle and an end. Miss any part out and the techniuqe will fail totally! Practice doesnt make perfect. That would be perfect practice.

Students who are spoon fed every piece dont really learn. Its the discovery and finding out what works for you thats the key to learning.

Best wishes

idai