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Do you feel the benefits of getting married are generally equivalent for a man as for a woman?

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I don't understand what you are talking about Ms Happy. > Men marry faster after divorce as evidence for them benefitting more from marriage ?

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  1. if they are equally contributing then yes


  2. I wouldn't advise any man to get married in this anti-male anti-husband anti-father culture.

  3. it all depends if you are a woman and you marry a male chavinist, controlling, lazy man then marriage wouldnt benefit you.

    If you are a man and you marry a lazy, goldigging, controlling woman then marriage wouldnt benefit you.

    If either gender marries someone trustworthy, loyal, compassionate, loving etc then being married would benefit a man or a woman.

    It all depends on your choice of partner.

  4. If the marriage is successful then I feel that both gain the same or loose the same depending on your outlook.  However I do feel that society is too comfortable with stereotypes that are now becoming outdated.  Example being how income is awarded and how parenting rights favour mothers.  Neither of these two paradigms are still the way theey were even 50 years ago.  Employment is available to both sexes in comparable terms.  How both parties choose to live during a marriage should not really affect what happens if it fails.  If one party didnt finish high school and the other graduated from college, does that mean they were ever at a level playing field to begin with? Therefore why at the end of a marriage do we equate finaces to some equal standard.  Did the lower educated person pay extra for that quality of life improvement that they enjoyed while married?  Male or female it doesnt even matter anymore.

  5. What do you mean by benefits?

    I just want to marry someone who gives a d**n about me and himself. The rest is relative.

  6. I will go with Kris on this one too.

    I got divorced several years back, and she cleaned up by stealing everything we owned while I was in hospital after she did some serious DV on me.  The police stood by and let her do it, the useless pack of PC morons.  The courts sympathised with her, even though she was on separate assault charges and DV charges.

    I notice a lot of ladies on here saying that a man gains more, but more of what exactly?  

    s*x? Only if he wants it and you offer it

    Property?  You will essentially be allowed to walk away with the buk of it, including all of your pre-marital assets.

    Children?  Family courts are atrociously pro- mothers for custody, so he ends up paying.

    Just exactly what is it that men get more of?

    I was told I was unusual for being a man instigating a divorce.  Had we children, I guarantee she would have got custody even though she got done for assault charges.  

    More men should initiate divorce in my book, and shake off their complacent wives, the only issue being children: women can afford not to be concerned in most custody battles.  Men need fear much because custody always goes to the woman even if she cheated or committed a crime.

  7. No I still believe there is a lot of inequality in marriages, for example society still accepts men as the breadwinners and woman as the homemakers even when a woman works some men still dont see it as part of their role to help with children and housework...things are changing slowly but until it does there will never be the equivalency beween men and women.

  8. No, men stand to benefit more.  This is why the majority of divorces are initiated by women.  After divorce, men are far more likely than women to remarry faster than their ex-wives.

  9. Yes of course. Although some people marry for the wrong reasons the whole point of modern day marriage is the official union between two people. You don't turn iunto different people, it's just a demonstrative way of showing your affections and officially becoming family.

    If people thinking about marriage and worry about prenups and divorce then it's doomed to failure.

  10. "Kris w... you have some real ****** up ideas there, let me guess nasty divorce?"

    This is the standard shaming/diminution reply to that type of content.

    I have similar views, and I have never been married.  Many single men now know the score, and info like Kris posted is spreading.

    You can love someone without being married.

    You can commit to someone without being married.

    You can live with someone, have children, rear a family, buy a home, go on vacations every year, without being married.

    There is no longer a benefit to Men for marrying.

    Every benefit that a man obtained in marriage in 1950 is available outside of marriage in 2008.  The liabilities to marriage in 2008 for a man are horrific.

    Better to keep her a girlfriend.

    ",,,not all women are gold digging b*****s..."

    So what?  The point is not that all women behave badly; there were bad women in 1950, too.  The point is that in 2008 the laws are so screwed up that men rely upon the good graces of the woman to not destroy their lives, and nothing else.  The law is all on her side.  Every woman has the legal ability to destroy her man's life, and many men don't want to live with such a risk over their heads.

  11. i don't care about the benefits of marriage etc, if i love someone enough (which i do) i would marry them.

    although i do believe its easy for a married man to get somewhere in job etc than women.

    Kris w... you have some real fucked up ideas there, let me guess nasty divorce?

    anyway me and my bf cohabit, I'm not abusive, i don't make out he is but we do keep arguing about money because he'll be working full time soon and as I'm stopping my income to go to college he'll be providing for us, i want a part time, he wont let me! not all women are gold diggin b*****s, I'm not and i know that if and when we do get married i will not be the one issuing the divorce!!

  12. In my past experience I would have to say no. I had a FT job, (actually made more than my husband), financially contributed to the marriage as well as the mortgage, had my own health insurance. I also got to cook, clean, grocery shop, do the laundry then be the primary caretaker of his 2 daughters as well as our own daughter.    


  13. No. Marriage is paramount to slavery for men and divorce= a death sentence.

          All marriage is, is a scam to turn men into walking ATM machines.

    With alimony false domestic abuse claims (it is more than likely that the majority of DV claims is false and created so the wife would have an advantage in a divorce).

    Alimony, working hard to save for retirement only to have it taken away.

    Being thrown out and have your home stolen on some one else's whim...

    Society and women in general insulting your intelligence and sense of being on TV, advertisements, news.

         Having safety from domestic abuse.

    These days men have to be very careful who they marry because if they pick a wrong mate they could get stuck with an abusive woman who might murder them and society will treat her as a hero.

    Paternity fraud.  The wife get's away with infidelity (probably still get's the house and car) and your stuck paying for a kid that is not yours.

      There is no benefit for men any more. One of the real benefits used to be emotional and physical health but now because of sexist wives abusing and harassing there husband's married men are likely to be more unhealthy then there single counter parts in a few years.

        Marriage only benefits women (unless your marrying a woman who is loaded then it could be justified) and as the marriage rate goes down feminist's will push for law's to enable live in gf's to financially rape men (there is a move to make couples who are not married to go to family court instead of civil court when property is in dispute)

        or even gf's who have there own place able to financially and emotionally rape men.

    I am sorry but when it comes to marriage or cohabitation it is a lose lose for men in way too many ways.

    Love these day's is not worth the risk of losing your life and rights.

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    Nope.. I just pay attention to the world around me.

         Then I extrapolate the chance of being a victim in a marriage and the chances of men being victimized in marriage are just too high to justify marriage.

    The sad thing is I went light on this one. Every married couple that I met within my own age group the husband is usually doing the majority of the general house work and real child care.

          So it just seems like a bad investment.

  14. kris w is right about some things and no its not equivalent for a man and a women

  15. No.  My husband is doing the exact same thing he was doing before he met me, only now someone does his laundry, cleans his house, cooks his meals, and has s*x with him whenever the mood strikes him.  

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