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Do you find it odd that people who are pro choice?

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Always ask pro life people how they feel about abortion. It seems that they are not content with their own views so they ask pro life people about their views. Is that their way of saying, "I feel guilty."?

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  1. I think this is because pro-choice people usually beleive we have an argumentative advantage over our opponent.  We ask you to lay out the reasoning supporting your claims so that we can engage with it point-by-point.  Since you are making a positive assertion, if the reasons for that assertion can be proven false, there is no reason for us to make a separate argument at all.  It doesn't make any sense to argue that an action (ie: prohibiting abortion) should *not* be taken if no viable argument is being made in favor of the action.  In this type of scenario, if you can debunk your opponents position, you are right by default.  I think this is the strategy you are encountering and misinterpreting.


  2. Do you find it odd that ignorant know-it-alls post troll questions like this? Maybe they know deep inside that they are ignorant, and it makes them feel guilty and they just have to let it out!

    You obviously have "spoiled brat princess" syndrome that makes you think you can judge other people's private moral lives based on some answer they give on a web forum.

    You know what pro life people I know feel guilty about? Not being able to help the teenage mothers and low income families without access to birth control more. We feel guilty about not being able to stop the people who mob every Planned Parenthood clinic (or in some cases burn them to the ground)  in the country and insult people so that a rape victim can't go and have a few cells removed from her uterus, that are in no way a human being, in a little peace.

    And maybe if more pro-choicers really DO ask questions of pro-lifers on here it's because they are more inquisitive at to how the other side thinks, and don't automatically use hate speech and claim god is on their side.

  3. No, but I find it odd and slightly creepy that you are so suspicious when people try to understand others.

    It's normal to want to understand other people's views and why they think that way. It also means if you can identify the error in that thinking, you could tell them where they are wrong. Or they could offer you a point of view or information you didn't have. It has nothing to do with guilt, although you are obviously hoping to believe that, which is a little sad.

  4. If I ask someone what their views on abortion are, I do so because I don't know what their views on abortion are. "Feel guilty" for what precisely? I support individuality and I'm big on human rights. I believe every individual human being who can think for themselves, should have the basic right to make choices for themselves. My mind cannot percieve something that cannot think, breathe or live for itself as a human being. So I have nothing to feel guilty about.

    By the way, "accusing" pro-choicers of "feeling guilty", is that your way of rationalizing your pro-"life" views as being the "right" view?

  5. For me, it's a way of saying "I have no idea how you can possibly believe what you believe".  I suppose it's like a black person asking how anyone can possibly support the KKK -  I find their beliefs foreign and frightening and just don't grasp how anyone could hate women so much, especially other women.

  6. You are right. That is their way of saying I'm guilty for being stupid.

  7. A: That's a generalization.  You don't know that EVERY pro choice person asks (or even cares about) the opinion of pro-lifers.

    B: "Is that their way of saying, "I feel guilty."?"

    Ummm...not every pro-choice person has had an abortion.  I consider "pro-lifers" to be "anti-choice".  Meaning, I don't see abortion as a good thing, but I'm not going to fight to take that choice from someone else.  

    C: Let's be real here: I think nearly everyone is "pro-life".  By that, I mean that I doubt that anyone WANTS to have an abortion.  I don't think that there's anyone who feels that an abortion is a great way to spend a Sunday afternoon.  Things happen.  People get pregnant in the wrong time in their lives.  People get raped.  The list goes on and on.  Why should someone be forced to give birth to a child they don't want?  Sure, youcould argue that they could've taken precautions NOT to get pregnant (and you'd be right), but if you're already pregnant, what should you do? I'd rather a woman have an abortion than to give birth to a child she doesn't want or can't afford to raise and end up abusing or neglecting the child.  And yes, there's adoption, but again, some women may not want to go through with carrying a baby for 9 months.

  8. No, I don't find it odd. Maybe they're just trying to foster rational debate.

  9. Well, it's a way to see the other point of view. It's what an intellectual does, actually, instead of screaming MURDERER in the other person's face.

    I feel sympathy for you, someone who sees a person's understanding as a bad thing...

  10. Yes, they feel badly about what they have done and about what they condone. The more they talk about it, the worse they feel. Try to give them your prayers and pity instead of anger.

  11. Always? I don't ask anyone their views on abortion-it's a personal matter. Can you say "stereotype"?

  12. What exactly am I supposed to feel guilty about, Sweetheart?

  13. That's just a sweeping generalization. Remember pro-choice includes basic female rights besides abortions such as fertility treatments, access to birth control and unbiased s*x education.

  14. I think people who are Pro Life enjoy having their taxes raised to pay for other women's children.

  15. No Pro Life Persons Need To Explain themselves

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