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Do you register as a leathal weapon in Kung Fu?

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When you get to a high enough level do you have to register as a leathal weapon in your state or something? Please, thanks!

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  1. Yes In all Martial Arts when you become a 1st degree black belt, you have to register as a lethal weapon federally.  Your allowed to only use it in serious situations.


  2. There is no such thing.  It's an urban legend.

    However, should you ever get in legal trouble for assault and battery no doubt your martial arts skill will get brought up and likely used against you.  The argument generally goes that because you have advanced training in how to hurt people you have a greater responsiblity to use that skill judiciously.  

  3. Rob B is the only one that has it right. In no state do you have to register as a lethal weapon no matter what your rank. This is an old myth that apperently somebody as experienced as Bunjikan Ninja doesn't realize is a myth. How is that?  

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthre...

    http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/archiv...

    Your training will come into question though if you ever have to use it, so choose wisely.

  4. Few states do that. The only one I can think of is Florida. I don't know about Kung Fu, but with TDK (if you live in Florida) you'd have to register as a lethal weapon as low as a yellow belt and you'd have to worn someone before you fought them. In my state (Georgia) you don't have to do this and if someone attacks you, you don't have to warn them and you can just go to town on them. lol.

  5. you may depending on where you live, martial artists are being recognized more and more as lethal weapons who have a responsibility to control themselves and how much force we use. we are considered privileged individuals who know deadly techs. should you land in court you could get arrested depending on the situation and the amount of force used. you shouldn't associate yourself with schools or organizations that have the words combat,warrior,deadly,lethal,etc. you can email me @ phralak@gmail.com to learn other tips on avoiding the courtroom when you were only trying to defend yourself on the street.  

  6. Wow... you know I knew there were some pretenders here...but do you people actually buy what you are saying?

    Seriously?

    Bujinkan Ninja, seriously... I think you need to stop buying what Ashida Kim, Stephen Hayes, and Hatsumi are trying to sell you my friend.. By making up something off the top of your head, and trying to "dazzle em with BS" doesn't make it remotely credible.

    (Btw, I hold 2 BB, high level in Krav, am a Pro fighter, and I have never had to register anything of the sort... oh and I live in Florida, which btw is a conceal and carry state, and one of the first state to pass Castle laws...)

    (btw here is some good info about Bujinkan and it's false lineage): http://www.bullshido.com/articles/ninjut...

    Also ask yourself where the true history of black clothes and tabis for ninjas came from... (here is a hint... not from actual ninjas)

    Anyway for the original poster, many people above are part of a group of people who either buy into the mythos of Martial Arts, (also prove themselves as not having any rank) about something this is so patently untrue it is laughable.

    It is a myth, a lie.

    You don't have to register yourself as a lethal weapon no matter what you study. Nor do Professional Boxers have to register their hands as lethal weapons.

    And trust me, there is no way anyone would consider a yellow belt in TKD a lethal weapon (or the large percentage of black belts that are walking around).

    While there is some validity to your training coming up, that is more likely if you were to attack someone, be charged for a crime, and they got into your background.

    If you defend yourself, provided you didn't curb stomp your would be attacker, chances are the cops won't ask your background.

    The only time your Martial Arts background may come into any sort of relevance is if you actually have to go to court to defend your actions, (which means you more than likely went over the line, or you killed someone).

    Even that is only to help discuss intent (i.e. were you aware that doing what you are did was going to cause the outcome). Not because there is any law for more scrutiny, or stiffer sentences on Martial Artist, just tougher penalities on intent. Meaning you knew, and utilized a technique to cause him excess bodily harm. Versus you were fighting for fear of your life, and aren't exactly sure what happened to him.

    I challenge any single poster that says you have to register as a deadly weapon, or to find any Martial Art related laws in any state, federal, or local law, just one actual law.

    Or find a law that says in a self defense, or hand to hand situation, that your will be viewed differently in the eyes of the court.

    There isn't any actual laws to this, but yes in the jury of your peers if you have a black eye, and your opponent is in a wheelchair, and you were foolish enough to state that you knew what you doing was going to put him there... with then you will be dealt with differently, not because you are a Martial Artist, but because you knowingly, and willingly went past the line of using the least force necessary to stop the threat.

    Anyway, enough of my book. In short, no you don't have to register, and in most cases you Martial Arts background will have no relevance provided you actually follow the law.

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