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Do you think that some of the JWs are actually going to be saved since their WT Organization do not let them?

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Clette: No, I do not. But as long as they go knocking of doors and claiming to be the only true channel of communication between God and people, they have to deal with people like me

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  1. Nina, I think that most of us will cross over to God, salvation is not needed.  I do feel like the JWs should be de-programmed.


  2. Baal translated into english is "Lord"

    Thus all have to answer the question Elijah asked.

    (1 Kings 18:21) 21 Then E·li′jah approached all the people and said: “How long will YOU be limping upon two different opinions? If Jehovah is the [true] God, go following him; but if Ba′al [Lord] is, go following him.” . . .

    One must never forget:

    "All who call upon the name of Jehovah will be saved"

    Paul reminds us:

    "There is to us one God, the Father"

    Jesus tells us:

    Eternal life comes from knowing the only true God, and the one whom he sent Jesus.

    Jesus also said, he made God's name known and would make it know to his followers.

    Jesus said "God gave his only begotten Son so that we shall not perish"

    Begotten comes from two words meaning "Only Made" or "Sole Created"

    We must believe in the "soley created Son" or else we perish.

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  3. Maybe, they will be saved. Saved long enough to be left behind.  They know they will be left behind because they say they will.  True Christians know they will be raptured.  I hope I answered right because I got a -12 pts. for some peculiar reason.  

    Happy 3 day weekend.

  4. Righteousness is one thing, and belief is another. Since God judges on deeds and righteousness rather than belief, there is no barrier to a JW entering.

    God is a righteous judge, I have no doubt.

  5. Why do you find their beliefs so threatening?

  6. Yes, all their children are going to be saved. What comes to the adults, they have willfull ignorance that is very dangerous.

    They say they love God, but they really do not. They do anythig what their organization asks them to do

  7. You could ask that question of all people with religious faith, they all think they are the chosen ones. JW's may knock on doors from time to time but they are the least offensive of all the religious people I've met.

  8. TITUS 3:9.

  9. Once saved always saved? Not a biblical doctrine? Reading things such as this are useless. God didn't allow any of his servants to read or listen to anyone supporting false doctrines because they were considered unclean.

  10. The concept of salvation is void, so the question is moot.

  11. Hello,

    Being in the organization with my wife for over 40 years each--we have not had to be told not to read information that is obscure to the way of worship that the Bible, most importantly advises, and also the kindred literature that our society supplies against any illegitimate twisting of Biblical concepts!

    DOCTRINES such as trinity , hellfire , immortal soul.... stand for confusion , that violates the recipe for truth as Peter advised:

    (2 Peter 1:5-8) “5 Yes, for this very reason, by YOUR contributing in response all earnest effort, supply to YOUR faith virtue, to [YOUR] virtue knowledge, 6 to [YOUR] knowledge self-control, to [YOUR] self-control endurance, to [YOUR] endurance godly devotion, 7 to [YOUR] godly devotion brotherly affection, to [YOUR] brotherly affection love. 8 For if these things exist in YOU and overflow, they will prevent YOU from being either inactive or unfruitful regarding the accurate knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

    The Bible also shows that whatever means Jehovah uses to protect his people will even be dramatic & surprizing to us, and might include some few witnesses who practice serious sins against Jehovah:

    (Psalm 19:12-13) “12 Mistakes—who can discern? From concealed sins pronounce me innocent. 13 Also from presumptuous acts hold your servant back; Do not let them dominate me. In that case I shall be complete,. . .”

    (2 Peter 2:5-9) “. . .and he did not hold back from punishing an ancient world, but kept Noah, a preacher of righteousness, safe with seven others when he brought a deluge upon a world of ungodly people; 6 and by reducing the cities Sod′om and Go·mor′rah to ashes he condemned them, setting a pattern for ungodly persons of things to come; 7 and he delivered righteous Lot, who was greatly distressed by the indulgence of the law-defying people in loose conduct— 8 for that righteous man by what he saw and heard while dwelling among them from day to day was tormentiNG his righteous soul by reason of their lawless deed......

    ......9 Jehovah KNOWS HOW TO DELIVER THOSE of godly devotion out of trial, but to reserve unrighteous people for the day of judgment to be cut off,”

    Good question

  12. As I tell people who at the door offer me their information, (Mormons usually, but sometimes it a "normal" Christian) who has received an anti-JW tract or booklet "I have no need or want to read the information."

    1st. Most of it is generated by ex-JWs who are apostates.

    Matthew 24:48 “But if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ 49 and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.

    These are hanging with the "drunkards" which fits well with this scripture.

    Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” 6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.

    Which leads us to the 2nd reason.

    Christendom is the biggest part of the world religious organization Babylon the Great. She was born out of the apostasy of the 2nd and 3rd century. Why would I have any thing to do with the opinions of that w***e?

    How can we avoid not hearing of their opinion of Jehovah's Witnesses? Every time our conventions come up, the regional churches make sure to express their disapproval of our activities and faith.

    Every time one of our children goes to school, they are told that there is no god, and that science has "proven" we are just fancy animals. That we should support your local government since they are the ones with power to give us the "prefect life". Don't live a life of faith, get a good career and make something of yourself.

    No, we are living as ones accountable, making our choice to avoid the trash. Most of us took the trash out of our lives years ago, including all the false teachings that foul Christendom or any other faith we stood away from.

    Revelation 18:4 “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues.

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