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Do you think that using embryos for stem cell reserach is murder? ?

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Ok if u were sick, i can understand why u wouldn't think so. But think about it, its just abortion. In abortions they kill the fetus, the sciencetist are doing the same thing to the embryos. Execpt their method is different. Using a test tube are a knife to kill these human beings before they can live is murder. No matter the noble reasons for it.

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  1. no.


  2. Murder in such a case is a very relative term. Embryos are usually given up by people going in for IVF treatments. Either they may be done with having children or they may have just donated the embryos for studies.

    All this time, the embryos are frozen, so they would be stuck at a phase when they're just a mass of some 8-16 cells. None of their organs would have been formed and they definitely cannot feel anything as they would have no nerves. So using them for research is not affecting their "health", per say. Abortions are an entirely different thing. By the time the pregnancy is detected, the fetus is already about 3-6 weeks old and the organs have already started forming. So technically, yes, abortion is murder. Embryonic research is more vague in that regard.

    The fact is that stem cell research does help those who are living and ill cannot be ignored. These tests help scientists gather information on how to utilize these cells to form vital organs/tissues that may have been damaged along the course of a patient's life. Isn't health and care as much about preserving existing life too? Would you rather that you died of a kidney failure when stem cells can help you practically form an entirely new kidney?

    It all comes down to individual thinking. If you support your opinion strongly, then nothing anyone says or does can change that. There is a reason embryo research is such a hot topic for debates today.

  3. Yes, it is killing a living organism...  BUT, that living organism is ALREADY going to be put to death anyways!!!!!!!!!!!

    Embryonic stem cell research comes from embryos left over from IVF that are headed for the biowaste, or abortions where the fetus is headed to the bio waste.  These embryos would die anyways!!!!!

    I do NOT agree with creating a life for the specific purpose of killing it to do research, but these embryos are going to die regardless.  I do NOT support women being paid for their embryos or products of conception after abortion, but that is not the case with these embryos.  They are going to die/be killed anyways!!!

    On a moral level, not scientific, I find it a slap in the face to put these poor lives that no one wanted in the trash.  My personal opinion is that we should do everything we can to make sure these tiny lives mean something to someone.  Make their small life worth it.

    If you are against embryonic stem cell research, then instead of ranting about it here, go to congress and try to fight against the already legal measures that are making this research possible....   IVF and abortion.  Bottom line.

  4. No I don't.  The embryos used for this research are usually blastocysts, very early stage embryos about 4-5 days old; it's just a bunch of cells and nothing more at that stage.


  5. Yes it's murder,i'd rather die than use any stem cell from a baby,no matter how sick i was!

  6. No I don't think it is murder. Stem cell research is the way forward for modern medicine.

  7. No,and you wouldn't either,if you were sick.......

  8. I think both is wrong! "Short and Sweet"

  9. It all depends at what stage a fertilised egg becomes a human being.  There are many definitions, ranging from conception (the Catholic position) right up to majority (I don't know any specific examples, but there are plenty where the under-age are denied certain rights given to adults).

    I am a Catholic, and so I take as a starting point that the miracle of life starts at conception, and so using embryos is murder.

    I am also a scientist, and recognise that in nature life at very early stages of development is cheap - many embryos do not make it to the 12th week, and are expelled without even the mother knowing they were there.

    Therefore there are degrees of murder during these early weeks.  I actually wonder which is the lesser sin at this stage - to take a life in these very early stages, or to hinder the saving of a life through embryonic stem cell research?

    I find it hard to judge, and must therefore pray to God to guide whoever has to make the decision that they may be at peace with their conscience.

  10. Yes the use of embryo stem cells for is morally wrong.

  11. No, I don't think it is murder. However, it opens up a huge ethical bag-of-worms. Let's say we just go after embryonic stem cells without any constraints. Where do the researchers get the embryos? Do we start paying young women to get pregnant, so we can harvest their embryos... sorta like paying the homeless to donate blood? Do we REALLY want to go down that path?

    Sure, in the short-term while we don't have a lot of uses for stem cells, we can get them from existing resources, but as time goes on and the demand grows, we could easily reach a point where demand exceeds the supply.

    Consequently, we can avoid ALL of this controversy and moral consequences by simply focusing on using adult and umbilical cord stem cells.

  12. I wonder if folks would take offense to a team of Dr.'s deciding that they wanted to open up their child just to see if there was anything inside they could use to help someone else?

    As long as it is a kid from across town or is going to benefit self, I guess it's O.K. But don't come knocking on my door, Right?

    Liberals, ya got to love their thought process.

  13. every day you lose millions of cells for example from your skin.... would you object to medical experiments on these.... so why would other cell experimentation bother you

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