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Do you think the WTC collapsed because of the impact or because of controlled demolition?

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Do you think the WTC collapsed because of the impact or because of controlled demolition?

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  1. It collapsed because the impact of the planes flying into the buildings at such a high rate of speed blew off the fire retardant on the steel. It is cheaper to spray that stuff on than it is to use other products that wouldn't blow off so easily. The designers never expected anyone to fly planes into the building. Who would? The steel was then exposed to the incredibly intense heat that the explosions that the crashes causes and the fuel that filled both of the cross country flights. The steel supporters buckled, causing the floors to be detached from them and allowing them to pancake down upon one another in the collapse.

    Watch the NOVA explanation if you really want to know what happened as opposed to clinging to the conspiracy theories which are simply nonsense.


  2. It seems logical that they were brought down with controlled demolition

  3. The "official" explanation of the World Trade Center (WTC) building collapses is that is was a combination of structural damage from the impact of the airplanes (or in the case of WTC 7, damage from falling debris) and further weakening of the structure by fire.  No one claims that the buildings collapsed just from impact of the airplanes.  I will assume that what you mean to ask is "What do you think is more believable: that the WTC buildings collapsed from the impact of the airplanes (or debris) and from the subsequent fires, or from controlled demolition?"  My answer is controlled demolition, for the reasons explained at http://911research.wtc7.net/ and in numerous other sources.  I believe the Bush Administration knew about the terrorist attacks and let the attacks happen, and planted explosives in the WTC buildings to make it a bigger disaster, in order to gain public support for the invasion of Iraq.

    Some of the reasons to believe it was controlled demolition:

    1. The buildings were specifically designed to withstand being hit by a large passenger jet airplane.  

    2. No modern steel structure building has ever before or since completely collapsed from fire, and the WTC buildings obviously didn't collapse from the initial impact.

    3. Jet airplane fuel burns at a maximum temperature that is too low to melt steel, and it would take several hours for a fire of that temperature to significantly weaken the steel.  

    4. All 3 buildings collapsed straight down, like controlled demolitions.  It seems very improbable that could happen by chance (why didn't the tall, slim twin tower buildings topple over to the side?).

    5. Each building collapsed extremely quickly, as if it was caused by a sequence of explosions in a controlled demolition.  If the collapse had been just from the weakened structure and gravity, it seems that the collapse would have been slowed down by the resistance of each floor that was encountered during the collapse.    

    5. Many of the witnesses at the event, including some firemen and other highly credible people, said that they heard explosions in the building in the basement before the building collapsed.  

    6. There are videos on the Internet of the collapse of one of the towers, in which you can hear what sounds like a series of explosions as the building collapses.

    7. Videos of the collapses of the towers show sudden puffs of smoke coming out of the buildings during the collapses that resemble "squibs" of smoke that occur from explosives used for planned demolitions.  

    8. The Bush Administration acted very suspiciously during and after the event, and they seemed to obstruct efforts to study the causes of the event.

    9. It is well known that the Bush Administration wanted to invade Iraq, and that they lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction to gain public support for the invasion.  This shows that they had a motive to have a major disaster like the 9/11 event to gain public support for an invasion of Iraq.  It also shows that they are dishonest enough to allow the 9/11 event to happen, and to magnify it, to gain support for their cause.

    10. It has been proven that the Bush Administration knew about a plan for terrorists to hijack passenger jet airplanes to attack the WTC, yet they apparently did nothing to try to prevent those attacks.  This is also evidence that they wanted to have the 9/11 event happen.

  4. I GOT THE INSIDE DOPE FROM J EDGAR HOOVER THAT G W BUSH AND SCOOTER LIBBEY SET THE CHARGES AND THAT KARL ROVE AND d**k CHENEY STRUNG THE WIRE AND THAT CONDI RICE PUSHED THE PLUNGER.   COLIN POWELL WAS SUPPOSED TO DRIVE THE GET AWAY CAR BUT HAD TO CANCEL SO THESE VILLIANS HAD TO TAKE RAPID TRANSIT TO JERSY WERE AIR FORCE 2 WAITED TO FLY THEM TO FLORIDA.   IN FLORIDAY THEY ALL WENT THEIR SEPEATE WAYS AND WERE ALL TO MEET AT THE WHITE HOUSE IN 12 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE EXPLOSION.      ON MY HONOR      MR  DOODLES

  5. I assume you must be speaking from an education in engineering, to come up with  a solution like that, the heat from thousands of gallons of jet fuel burning in a confined area, would have acted almost like a smelter on the metal trusses that supported that building

  6. It was due to an enormous plane flying into it at massive speed, combusting on impact, burning and melting the steel, and subsequently setting off all sorts of fires, and then the top collapsed and the building subsequently fell...

  7. Controlled demolition, is the only logical conclusion one can come up with.

  8. If I were to tell you the truth about the WTC. attack your bowels would instantly empty,  you hair would fall out and in all probability your heart would stop beating, so don't ask..OK

  9. For every weld, bolt, beam to fail in majority of the building at almost the same time...

    I'm sorry to say, impossible

    demolition.  Building 1,2 and 7.  these were the only building to completely fall in to their own foot print.  This is difficult to do with explosives, never mind a airplane crash up high on the building

  10. Neither. The impact of the planes caused damage, yes, which helped the collapse. But the collapse was primarily due to the fire which weakened the support structures, causing the buildings to be unable to support the top floors, which, when they fell, took the rest of the buildings down with them. As to WTC 7, that suffered serious damage from falling debris along with a fire that could not be put out since the damage disabled the fire suppression system.

    Every expert, including people in the demolition field, has said that the collapses were in no way consistent with controlled demolition. In addition, it would have been impossible to set up a controlled demolition of such large structures without being noticed.

  11. http://wtc7.net/articles/WhyIndeed09.pdf  ...pg 32 will show you picture perfect evidence of explosives being used.

    20 year BYU physicist Steven E Jones and his students think it was controlled demolitions thanks to their experiments and research that made the 9/11 Commission look like the Mickey Mouse Club.

    EDIT: rukiddin.... plane flew in, blew off fire retardant .. blah, blah , blah...  How do you apply that argument to WTC7?

    Mr. Stiggo... Funny you say "every expert" when that is clearly false...as is your other statements...  check out what other 'experts' denouncing the official story... http://www.ae911truth.org/

  12. Not the impact, from the increased stress of the frame of the building after the impact.

  13. Well based on the FACTS and not the paranoid speculation of the "Thruthers"  the buildings were brought down as a result of the impact causing damage and the ensuing fire which weakened in the steel beams enough to where they could no longer support the weight of the building above the area of the impact and fire.  Once the collapse began the rest of the building simply couldn't withstand the stresses.

    As for the delusional few who somehow believe it was a "controlled explosion"  please cite a single witness that observed any workers cutting holes in the floors or walls to place the explosives. Please cite any witnesses who observed the MILES of wire that would have been visible to ANYONE using the stairs. Please explain why there was not a SINGLE trace of explosives being found in the rubble of the buildings.  Please explain that lack of anyone reporting the very noticeable smell of high explosives immediately after the collapse.  Please explain to us why you still believe this myth after every serious investigation including those by the History  Channel and Popular Mechanics has proven all your theories to be completely and totally wrong.

  14. Last I checked, no plane impacted WTC 7.  The third building to suffer complete collapse.

    Besides, the Empire State Building didn't collapse when a B-25 bomber flew into it on July 29th, 1945....now did it?

  15. Does anyone know how hot kerosene fuel burns at? Or at what temperature structural steel would melt at? Just curious because I think iron workers should start using kerosene to cut steel instead of acetylene torches which burn at 3200 -3500 degrees.

    And why did 7 go down anyway? Didn't it have a fire extinguisher system in it? Maybe that's why Larry Silverstein said "We decided to pull it."

    At no time in history had fire brought down a steel biulding until 9/11, the day it happened 3 times.

    "Silverstein Properties, Inc., and Westfield America, Inc. will lease the Twin Towers and other portions of the complex in a deal worth approximately $3.2 billion – the city's richest real estate deal ever and one of the largest privatization initiatives in history."[4]

    The lease agreement applied to One, Two, Four and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet (39,500 m²) of retail space. Silverstein put up $14 million of his own money to secure the deal. [5] The terms of the lease gave Silverstein, as leaseholder, the right to rebuild the structures should they be destroyed and should he comply with the onerous financial obligations of the lease.[6]

  16. Either it was controlled demolition...

    ...or terrorists can melt steel with their MINDS!

    Which is scarier??

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