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Does Evolutions discuss the or-gin of all matter Doesn't Spontaneous generation prove it wrong ?

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Does Evolutions discuss the or-gin of all matter Doesn't Spontaneous generation prove it wrong ?

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  1. Evolutionary theory has nothing to say about the origin of matter and the concept of spontaneous generation has nothing to do with either


  2. > Does Evolutions discuss the or-gin of all matter

    Nope.  That's cosmology that deals with the Big Bang, and the formation of galaxies.  Ask about these things in the "astronomy" section.

    > Doesn't Spontaneous generation prove it wrong ?

    Nope.  Thanks for asking.


  3. It's a very interesting question and one that needs to be considered when studying how evolution works. Biological evolution doesn't directly address the origin of matter. That is more of a subject for cosmology or astrophysics.  However, all things that exists in our four dimensional reality has its origins at the singularity during the big-bang. All matter, including life and even consciousness itself is a direct result of how our universe unfolded after the big-bang.

    Spontaneous generation of life does not occur in our current realm. It did occur some 3.5 billion years ago. But just because it doesn't occur in a modern age doesn't mean that it didn't occur billions of years ago. The earth was a very different kind of place back then. It had a different kind of atmosphere than what we have today.  Evolution doesn't really address this issue of life's origin.  Evolution, by way of natural selection, came into play only after life got its start. So, basically, spontaneous generation doesn't prove or disprove anything accept that it can't happen again in modern times.

    See: Biological Physics

    http://www.physics.umn.edu/research/biol...

    Quantum Evolution: Why is Life So Special

    http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/Outline.htm

    A Quantum Mechanical Model of Evolution and Consciousness

    http://www.secamlocal.ex.ac.uk/people/st...

    Big Bang

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang


  4. Spontaneous generation, if anything, is a mark against creationism since the whole idea of creationism is that god spontaneously generated life.

    Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of matter, it only vaguely has anything to do with the origin of life.  The Theory of Evolution is about the diversity of life, why we have the species we have.  The idea of evolution in general can be applied to the origin of life since the origin was due to the self organization of organic molecules to make the first primitive life, though this is definitely outside the Theory of Evolution.  This does not involve spontaneous generation at all, spontaneous generation means, basically, 'popping into existence out of nowhere'.  Since the first life did not just pop up, but came about due to a specific structuring of already existing molecules, this has nothing to do with spontaneous generation.

    Compare that to the creationist model 'god said 'let there be' and it was'.  Which one sounds more like spontaneous generation to you?

    If you're actually talking about the origin of matter itself, and not just life, that has nothing to do with evolution at all.  There are currently no scientific theories about the origin of matter.  There are a few hypothesis, though.  The astronomy forum would be a better place to ask about this.

  5. The definition of Evolution is change over time. The working definition used by biologists is “change in allele frequency in a population between generations.”  NOTHING to do with the origin of matter.  

    Nor does it have anything to do with spontaneous generation unless there was enough spontaneous generation to cause a change in allele frequency.  However, since no one has ever observed spontaneous generation, that translates to the effect of nothing will be nothing on everything.

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