Does PETA only focus on the extremes of animal cruelty or is the kind of torture they cover commonplace?

Question

I've always been curious about that. I'm a brand new vegetarian. If you could answer my questions and follow up with any advice you have for me, that would be great.

Answer 1

SECOND EDIT: Yeah, sure Goat. Peta runs 60 minutes, the New York Times, The Boston Globe, USA Today?

Where's your actual proof about anything you've claimed? You seem to be there on every PETA related question to pimp the anti-PETA site. You're just like Richard Berman, just making stuff up solely to slander and obfuscate. Maybe you should get a lackey job with Ricky. Oh wait, you already do. =]

As Berman states himself:

Berman's strategy turns on a simple rhetorical gimmick: By employing the language of consumer freedom, he protects his client industries by demonizing (and, hopefully, discrediting) their critics -- all apparently in service of the hapless consumer. Berman has been explicit about his approach. "Our offensive strategy is to shoot the messenger," he once told Chain Leader Magazine, a trade publication for restaurant chains (whose readership presumably doesn't include too many ordinary consumers). "We've got to attack [activists'] credibility as spokespersons."

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?arti...

====

EDIT: Wow, the PETA-haters can give me (and the others who speak up for PETA) all the thumbs down they want but it doesn't change the truth of the organized malignment of the group by big money and the very people who pa-troll the internet for Berman's interests on threads just like this one trying to influence how people regard PETA by forcing herd behavior. Berman == McCarthy of the corporate world.

Read the links! ;)

====

PETA addresses so much more than just the extreme way animals are treated (which unfortunately is a constant, day in and day out thing).

In fact, the industry is so bothered by it that they started trying to address PETA in deceptive ways which includes the ridiculous PETA "kills" site that Sarah.Bomb included in her answer here.

The background info on that is (from another question on this I answered earlier):

What she's promoting is an industry group in sheep's clothing. That's a Rick (Richard) Berman group, "Center for Consumer Freedom" aimed at discrediting and marginalizing organizations such as PETA. Among some of their other pursuits is Mothers Against Drunk Driving, Greenpeace and more.

Who do they work for? They work for Monsanto, The meat, dairy, restaurant industries, the fishing industry, Wal-Mart, Tyson, Cargill, Dean Foods, big tobacco, the soda industry and the beer and alcohol industry among others.

Some of their scamming astroturf groups?

Center for Consumer Freedom Umbrella:

    activistcash.com

    cspiscam.com

    physicianscam.com

    fishscam.com

    neoprohibition.com

    animalscam.com and petakillsanimals.com

    obesitymyths.com

The Employment Policies Institute

American Beverage Institute

Employment Roundtable

Center for Union Facts

Employee Freedom Action Committee

Isn't it funny they name themselves after scam so much since they are such scammers?

In fact, I just found one of the tag team postings last night on the Boston Globe website. David Martosko works for Berman's scam operation and is actually in the Penn & Teller anti-Peta episode (that Penn & Teller are that easily manipulated and/or in the pockets of big industry and helping them to play us for fools has caused me to lose all respect for them -- better fools than tools).

Under Dave Martosko who is mocking Greenpeace is a comment by Gavin Gibbons commenting for the National Fisheries Institute which is another industry front. He is ironically attempting to throw doubt on a poster by saying that poster is making ad hominems even as his buddy above has made one after another about Greenpeace. This time they're trying to obscure the issue of the collapse of the fish stocks but they've also been very active trying to get people to believe there is no mercury issue or PCBs/Dioxins (Monsanto deals) in fish and they've even tried to convince pregnant women that the harm of mercury isn't worth having mentally delayed children (trying to scare us) which they say can be avoided by eating even more fish (on that one they tried to claim the March of Dimes was behind them).

See, they can't fight the groups like PETA and Greenpeace on facts so they try to do it through mocking. That the industries would resort to these tactics shows just how much more scummy they are.

Richard Berman is known as Dr. Evil, or as I like to call him, Beezlebub. He starts "charitable" groups such as Obesity Myths, or Fish Scam and solicits donations via advertising spreading the ideas the industries want you to believe. It's all about deception.

But then it gets even worse. The "charities" which get most of their money from the industries themselves such as Phillip Morris and Coca-Cola, then hire Richard Berman's consulting group, Berman & Co. to put together the campaigns. So, essentially he has drummed up his own business out of scamming all while manipulating the government rules, tax structures and the general public.

Berman's group under an entirely new incarnation has even been caught in the last few weeks spreading rumors in an attempt to get Gordon Smith re-elected as a senator.

Answer 2

look at the videos themselves. No time stamp , no identifying company logos of the so called abusers, no identifiable persons, not even an identifiable place where the supposed "abuses" occurred. Just  a lot of "undercover investigations" by unidentified people. It seems weird that vocal PETA won't take individual companies to court for supposed abuses. PETA also won't show videos of their own killing of HEALTHY animals (you can view them here: www.nokillnow.com It is website started by disillusioned ex PETA employees and members).

On the other hand, PETA openly lends financial, legal and logistical support to ALF and ELF, two organizations tagged by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations responsible for more than 600 criminal acts since 1991.

Answer 3

According to the experts in the industry, what you see on PETA propaganda films isn't "chance" cruelty caught on tape.  This sh*t goes down everywhere, every single day.

Get onto google video and check-out a film called "earthlings."  You can watch it free online.  It's not PETA, and it's real.

Bob Torres (vegan author and activist) did his BSc in animal agriscience, and has seen it all first-hand.  He assures that what you see in those "meet your meat" type videos isn't extreme... it's commonplace.

Answer 4

Just a few videos can`t be held accountable for what happens at ALL slaughter houses.

@ SIlver most of those websites are probably run or funded by peta so they can`t be trusted.

@Silver I didn`t say all of them.

Answer 5

PETA is made up of people like you and me who don't want animals to be treated inhumanely.  PETA is against all kinds of cruelty.

Answer 6

PETA is bad news.

Answer 7

PETA is BS. i wholeheartedly support animal rights, but PETA sucks. look at this website: http://petakillsanimals.com/

ingrid newman, the founder is a freakin nut. i'm offended by her comparing the the slaughter of chickens to the slaughter of jews in concentration camps...also, her will is really scary and f*cked up...you can find it on the peta website...also she and the rest of peta don't support having pets.....i love my dog very much, and we don't abuse her! s***w you ingrid newman

Answer 8

Peta is an advertising firm that promotes how crazy it is.  They have to either seek out or stage the most outrageous examples of cruelty to get enough money to keep the organisation going.

Bribes must have been involved in making the seal clubbing video, no other way they could have gotten that close.

Answer 9

Like any interest group, they are going to choose the best examples to demonstrate their point.

However, it is probably more common than you might expect.  Remember that PETA can't be everywhere at all times, so it's likely that these things are happening in other places as well, that they don't find out about.

Answer 10

Industrial animal agriculture is, by far, the greatest "provider" of animal carcasses and animal secretions (eggs, milk, etc.)

As in any "proper" industry, the focus is on profit. Spend the less possible, make the most you can out of it.

The "kind" of treatment that welfarist groups such as PeTA show, it is commonplace.

Nevertheless, PeTA, just as the rest of the welfarist groups, do focus on "cruelty". The problem they aim at, is the "how" we deprive of liberty, enslave, torture and ultimately kill other animals, not at the very fact that we are violating and/or ignoring those animals´ most basic interests.

They focus on "treatment", not in the "use" itself. In their campaigns, they reject "cruelty", not the instrumental view of other animals. That which states that other animals are nothing but "things", our property, means to human ends.

Advices... inform yourself. Read, listen, discuss, share, educate yourself, and educate others.

If you want to learn more about animal rights, I suggest you to take a look at this site...

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com

And here´s a very funny podcast that might help you with a lot of questions you might have...

http://veganfreakradio.com/

Kind regards,

Samuel.

EDIT: If someone doesn´t want to believe what they see in these videos, I think it´s a good idea if you tell them to go and see it for themselves. Tell them to go to a slaughterhouse, or to an egg/dairy industry.

Answer 11

There president said

"Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler

chickens will die this year in slaughter houses."

-Ingrid Newkirk

I dont know how you compare a human and a chicken

PETA also doesnt supporting owning animals as "pets"

Answer 12

Well Ive seen many cases.Both large and small...So No I think they do both...Just not like...Extremely small...

Answer 13

I feel that much of PETAs propaganda is scripted.

Answer 14

they use extreme examples.. Many are even staged..

I know the Kosher slaughter is a farce.

Ten years ago (20) their goal was noble and many humane laws now come with sever fines and imprisonment..

But it remains that 10,000,000 + animals must be slaughtered to feed the world daily ..

and very little is wasted..