Does any one really know if this works ( water for fuel)?

Question

http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=tounano

this is the site I've looked at as well this guy thats been telling me about say about 4/5 people in cali have one of these systems its suppose to increase your fuel economy by at least 50%. Has any one had one of these and what are your comments

Answer 1

It’s a con, and it’s been around since before the 1970’s you get back far less energy back then what you put in. I have the math and will post it again if you post back an edit, but in the end you get back only about 20% of the energy. I know they tell you that your alternator is producing excess power, it’s not, your alternator only puts out the power you need, or that HHO is enhance the combustion of your car, it won’t. A modern car only put out about 50 ppm (parts per million) of un-burnt hydrocarbons and even if HHO was able to burn that small about of hydrocarbons (it can’t) you wouldn’t notice it nor would you get back the energy you put out to make the gas.

Think about this

If it really helped fuel mileage why are they not on new car? The car companies have to make the CAFÉ number and if it really increased the fuel mileage as much as they claimed up to 40%, they would be billionaires over night. Even if you believe big oil got to the US car companies and the government, why wouldn’t Japan, a country that imports ALL its oil, not be putting this on their cars? Or India, China, ETC. Think about it, big oil would have to kill this device in every county that produces cars, including South Africa which is producing ethanol to end their dependence on oil. And they would have to buy off all the testing results, and quash all the books, stop all the web sites. Notice that big oil still hasn’t quashed the web sites, or any other of the web sites pushing this device, strange. Not really, big oil isn’t worried about this because it doesn’t work.

Here I'll help you improve your fuel mileage and cut down the amount of fuel you buy and I'll do it for FREE!!!

1 Check the air pressure in your tires every month and make sure they are at the proper pressure

2 Check your air filters and make sure they are clean.

3 Combine your trips.

4 Slow down you probably won’t notice the time difference if you drive 60 versus 70 mph (10 minuets every 70 miles) but you get much better fuel mileage. Remember every time you double speed it takes about 4X the horse power to maintain that speed.

5 If it’s within 10 blocks or less walk unless you really need to drive, like if you need to bring something really heavy home.

There I just told you have to save more gas then you’ll EVER save with a HHO device and it didn’t cost you a thing.

Answer 2

Water is not a fuel. It is a combustion product (as 2H + O -> H2O)

You can electrolise water into hydrogen and oxyen then use the hydrogen as fuel, but that uses more energy than would be released, so it only makes sense if you have an abundant but non-portable source of electricity which can be used for the electrolysis, but even then battery power would probably make more sense.

It may be possible to use steam power by injecting water into an IC engine's cylinders so that it converts to steam and adds to the expansion of gas, but it is complicated (for one thing, causing rust) and unlikely to make much difference to mpg.

Answer 3

These Hydrogen booster systems do work on some vehicles but only marginally. Not worth the time and money for the small increase in mileage. I think the largest mpg increase proven was around %25 on very small engines. They're pretty good for reducing emissions tho.

Cars will burn hydrogen but it takes hundreds of liters of hydrogen per minute to even idle a four cylinder engine. If you really must burn hydrogen, then you will have to build or buy a stationary hydrogen generator/compressor and refuel a high pressure tank in your car. It takes a lot of electricity to electrolyze water so you'd best use solar or wind power. Otherwise it'd be more cost effective to just build an electric car.

Take a look at these two for a few hydrogen ideas.

No electricity needed to produce hydrogen. Still a work in progress.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?PHPSE...

A real car that runs on bottled hydrogen. This video can be found on bittorrent free.

http://www.knowledgepublications.com/goo...

Answer 4

Its looks like one biggest loads of c**p I have ever seen. Think about for one second and you'll realize the same. Splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen requires more energy than you will ever get back from burning the hydrogen. If it didn't then the world's energy crisis would be over, the result of burning the hydrogen is water which you could just feed back into the device to make more hydrogen. Comon use your brain!

Answer 5

I seen something about a week ago,were a man has made a cutting torch and was using water. It was cutting into a metal ball. It then showed were he had made an engine and after it ran it only produced water and it used only water. I'm not sure just how much power it had but he is talking to some of the big company's about making a vehicle. that everyone can use.The cost will knock ur socks off I'm sure because no oil company is going to allow this out until they have all the I's doted and the T's crossed I can grant u that

Answer 6

No, it does not work.

There is no such technology, it is impossible.  There is no such thing as HHO, as they claim.

They just make it up.

The books are just guides on making your car more efficient.  Like buying your gas when it is cold (you get more, because gas expands when it is warm)

Things like that, but it doens't burn water, that is impossible.

Answer 7

If u believe that why not send me a few thousand. Look at your car on gasoline ,as the exhaust tells the story. There is no oxygen in the exhaust ,so to apply more fuel will not help. Apply more oxygen could give u more power. Hydrogen is the most explosive gas on earth . Be very careful as it leaks through most hoses and any poor connection.

Answer 8

All I can tell you is that it is complete BS.  I answer this question 4 or 5 times a day - read through my answers looking for "hho gas" and such for details.  I grow weary of explaining it.

Answer 9

If you work through the wikipedia entry on browns gas, (and we can not assert that it is not a pure fabrication,) it would appear to be a concept that has been played with to the extent of being worth proving.

There are some kits that are not worth taking home free. The observations of  difficulties encountered are just what I had predicted would happen. The solution used appears to be appropriate only if an engineer is going to be monitoring it second by second. Specifically flash back control looks questionable. It might work until it fails, then the kit self destructs.

The Browns gas generators in any kit I have reviewed have no quantitative controls that could possibly allow a claim of 'at least 50% fuel consumption'.

The experiments that reviewers have done appear to demonstrate that one can use Browns gas with diesel or gas, and operate with lower fuel air ratios. Only when one made that adjustment could one hope to improve economy.

It appears that  this will accomplish something useful while the engine is not under heavy load.

My  concern is that despite claims that this will not invalidate your warranty (because you can uninstall it before asking for warranty service), I see no auto manufacturer telling me that they would not invalidate the warranty.

I think there is at least enough work left to be done on the designs to suggest that we wait for a manufacturer to OK them.

Answer 10

no it's complete c**p.  i think it started as a stoner conspiracy against the government.  anyways, i watched that show myth busters on the discovery channel or watever, and they did the gas myths.  water didn't work. neither did hydrogen.  but what DID work was the excess grease from restaraunts.  note* lots of grease.

Answer 11

I have looked into these back in the early 80"s and it works marginal at best. the electrical requirements needed to properly split the water molecules is greater than what the car will produce.

Answer 12

it's possible.

I know someone who made his race car run on water.

i don't know the specifics, but it's legit.