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Does anyone believe in peak oil anymore?

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It seems like the peak oil doomsday scenario cancels out the global warming doomsday scenario. If you believe in both of them at the same time, your probably addicted to doomsday scenarios.

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  1. peak oil (and peak everything non renewable) has to happen sometime unless we stop using them!

    unfortunately, it now looks like we can only afford to burn about half the remaining known fossil fuel reserves (and thats not counting methane clathrates) before we cause runaway warming.


  2. Yes.  Every major oil expert.  Every major world leader.

    The ever increasing price is not due to evil oil companies or environmentalists who wield vast power.

    It's simply that we're starting to run low.  This is objective, provable fact.  EVERY YEAR, the discoveries of new oil are less than the increase in demand, as formerly agricultural countries get rich, buy cars, build factories, etc.

  3. all this 'doomsday scenarios' are complete rubbish. people should start spending time, energy and money on solving these problems instead of telling people what will happen if they don't

  4. Totally agree.

    Everything is going to be fine in the end. It was really a waste trying to stop Hitler.

    The world is so perfect without any intervention to correct.

  5. Some people are so pre-disposed to believing in gloom and doom scenarios that they have no trouble believing in contraditory end of the world scenarios simultaneously.  

    Actually most AGW believers seem to also believe in peak oil.

    (edit) of course by end of the world we mean the end of the world as we know it.  

    Their not really end of the world scenarios, just gloom and doom scenarios that a lot of people seem to be addicted to.

    Also a lot of the older climate researchers who are predicting global warming now, made the switch from predicting global cooling in the 1970's.  It's easy to go from one kind of gloom and doom to another.

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    Nickel - you doom sayers are so gulliable - if it's gloomy it must be true.  Copper hasn't peaked, rates of extraction are still rising.  Copper is one of the most abundant elements in the earth.  Saying we're running out of copper is like saying we're running out of dirt.  

    Go back to watching you gloom p**n.

  6. Well, it's rather obvious you do not believe in peak oil, by your posting.  

    I believe in Global Warming.  It's caused by the sun (Mars is warming up same as Earth), and it's a natural cycle.

    Global POLLUTION however is an entirely different, and quiet serrious problem (what is happening to the drinking water is quiet horrible).

    Peak Oil...yes I most certainly believe in peek oil.  That is fairly easy to prove.  Oil wells go dry...they do not start to manufacture oil again, and fill back up.  All the earths oil was caused by just a couple of cataclismic events (involving really big astroids).  Once we use that oil up, that all...there is no more (until the next big astroid).  

    I'm a small farmer.  I live in Idaho.  I have customers from all over the world, via the local University.  Interestingly I have some quiet wealthy Saudi Arabian students who come to my farm.  They have been coming to my farm for quiet a few years now, so they are comfortable talking about all sorts of "taboo" subjects with me (a woman).   We talk about religion, politics, and enegry/power/oil.  My husband works on the commercial wind turbines.  My customers have "confided" in me about oil, and how it will run out (something I knew long before they told me).  Their kingdom is preparing for such an eventuality.

    They are building a city from the ground up that will be powered completely by wind and solar.  The city will also produce a huge amount of its own food.  Their King is also going to retrofit exsisting cities in Arabia to run on solar and wind.  They do this to prepare for a time when they will have no more oil.  Gas is ten cents a gallon there.  The wind and solar power costs them vastly more money than it would to continue running things on oil.  

    When oil rich nations switch to renewable energy (which is costing them vastly more money) people should sit up and pay attention.

    ~Garnet

    Homesteading/Farming over 20 years

  7. since when is peak oil a doomsday scenario? it is a point in time at which oil production falls. it is inevitable. unless you believe is one of the more quirky theory's on the souse of oil.

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