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Does anyone else think that the hunting ban should be lifted?

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I certainly do, what about other people?

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  1. I enjoy fox hunting.

    In all my years of riding, the only 2 foxes we ever "caught" were those that were sick or diseased. People don't realize that foxes are very intelligent and easily out fox  the dogs. They know how to cover their tracks, how to cross water to wash away their scent and 99.9% of the time live to allow us another merry chase.

    I can tell you without hesitation, that automobiles kill more foxes daily than any fox hunting club does in a year of riding.

    Further more, hunt clubs help preserve the country way of life when local farmland is gobbled up by developers at an alarming rate.

    This is the site for one of our local hunts for those who are interested:

    http://www.rhfpa.com/Whatisfoxhunting.ht...

    I have said my piece and expect to be trolled for it, so have at it.


  2. farmers and ranchers will shoot pests like foxes,coyotes,raccoons,rabbits and other pests that endanger their livestock and poultry and without the hunting of these pests they will eventually overrun the countryside.probably one of the most effective ways to kill foxes was the invention of the automobile and as one poster has said autos kill more foxes in a week than hunts do in a year.hunts are a part of the United Kindoms heritage and growing up as a cowboy i always respected other countrys heritage and customs and i dont see anything wrong with it.as far as i am concerned they are a pest and endanger livestock and poultry.

  3. You've opened up a can of worms here lol!

    I agree (sort of) - the hunting ban was put through badly - it either needs to be re-written so it actually makes sense, or lifted. Makes no odds to me either way really, it is part of English heritage.

  4. NO... hunting is ****ing cruel.

    The ban was about the only thing the government ever did right.

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    LOL @ TROLL (!) - Oh right because street lighting and bus services are JUST like being ripped to shreds by a pack of hungry dogs, aren't they?!?

  5. Everyone's entilted to there own opinion. My opinion is that the ban should not be lifted. But again, that's my opinion. I don't live in the country, therefore I don't know what the toll on livestock and such is.

    Quote: bc the people who band that dont like riding and dont like hunting (it's inhumane to ride a horse to those people). . .End Quote

    Speak for yourself. I don't believe that hunting should be done for sport. If it's to curb the population, then yes. But last time I checked, there weren't thousands of surpluss foxes roaming every square inch of the country. Hm? As for riding, which I do, I guess I have mixed feelings. Think about this though. The horses get all the care they need, shelter, food, veterinary care, etc. And they have someone on their back for maybe an hour every few days.

  6. No I don't. The "hoity toits" said we would be over-run with foxes, once the ban was put in place, and I don't hear the local farmers in my area complaining about losing livestock. And I don't see any more foxes than I did before the ban.

    Dog fighting, and chicken fighting was the sport of the poor man, and quickly banned (and rightly so) so why should ripping foxes to pieces be accepted, just so some rich d**k head can be provided with sport??

    As for the idiot who mentioned street lighting, and a bus service, We don't have either, in the rural Cornish village I live in, and we don't miss them either. Stupid example!!

  7. Yes. I totally agree with you. Hunting is not as bad as people make it out to be. When I hunt, I ALWAYS go by the 1 shot 1 kill mantra. Also, we don' kill "Bambi" just for the h**l of it, I do it to get food. After visiting a slaughter house, I'm glad I hunt and eat normal un STEROIDED meat. A well placed shot should put down the animal at once. What surprises me the most is that we don't have any people ranting about how in humane slaughter houses are. HERE IS A FACT: Average time of death for a accurately shot deer: 4 seconds. Compare that to a cow that dies by having a metal spike pneumatically shot into the head or being electrocuted: 30 minutes. Another thing is: people who hunt, don't always agree with other forms of hunting. For example: Do i believe hunting w/ dogs should be allowed? No, I don't because i believe in FARE CHASE! People who use dogs are LAZY and want instant gratification not hunting. I wake up at 5:30 in the morning, and sit all day on a stand on a Field in -15 degree weather waiting for a deer. To be honest I'm not even "Buck Driven". I kill my antler less deer and usually my deer season ends there. In conclusion on my rant, i would like to tell all the hunter haters out there to try hunting. How could  you relay say you don't like hunting until you tried it? I visited a slaughter house and to be honest, I'm glad I'm eating organic deer meat.

  8. You mean there's a ban?? Funny how nobody seems to have told the countless "hunts" around the country about said ban!!

    To sit upon a horse and give chase to a small defenceless animal,who on capture,you kill,must really warm the heart!

    Now, if we replace the fox with one of the huntsmen/women i'll gladly participate in this "sport".

    No, is my short answer.

  9. It has just been put in place, of course it shouldnt be lifted, are you insane?!  You people live in a little world of your own.

  10. no  never its cruel............ its a sick sport for all the toffs with more money then sense...we should hunt the hunters see how they like it........

  11. Why would anyone want it lifted?  There is no indication that it has created any problems for the countryside.  It has certainly ended the cruelty of chasing an animal until it felt its lungs were bursting and was then savaged by dogs.

  12. I am personally sick of all these city folks who want to ban most everything that is in my way of country life. People come here from the city and try to import their way of life and thinking onto the ppl that live , like me, in the country and enjoy rural life. They bring their own rules, codes and their nutty way of thinking in terms of wildlife and nature. There is no harmony in nature, it is full of chaos and murder, it's survival of the fittest. There is no fox hunting here but if I saw one that looked mangy or was bothering my farm animals I would destroy it. Most carry rabies around here. Fox hunting is a tradition, I don't care if they use a live fox or a scent rag. We also hunt raccoon here and bear. People from away have tried to ban bear hunting and were unsuccessful, hopefully they never win. If it happens we have bear raiding our barns and fields and they love bird feeders.

    Stop wanting to ban so many things!

  13. You can still hunt, you just have to do a bit more work for it.

    I know folks who lay a scent trail for the dogs to follow, then trail the dogs and pretend it's for real.  All the fun, none of the violence.  Plus you get to choose your route, so you can be sure to choose a safe route, across property where you know you have permission to be.

  14. It was all the city types [townies] that got it banned when they have no idea of country life.

    How would they like it if we managed to get something they regarded as a way of life banned? such as street lighting or a bus service.

    Lift the ban, townies vote on what you know about such as increasing the size of parking spaces to accomodate your Chelsea tractors.

  15. are you people from peta people eating tasty animals i am

    stop hunting but buy nikes you hippo crit yeah i spelled it that way on purpose, burn fosil fuels  vote for abortion and g*y rights but dont kill bambi you are sick

  16. You sick freak, NO WAY.

    Do you like the idea of us chasing you around on horseback, and maiming you.

    No.

    you should be put in a dark room and forgotten about.

  17. No 'the hunt' is pathetic, people can still hunt if they really want to, they just cant chase foxes around the English countryside on horses with packs of dogs to tear them apart when they catch them, can't even really call it hunting, they should just call it chasing and killing.

  18. i'm alittle lost on the exact topic. . . but i'll try to answer based on what i've read of the other answers....

    fox hunting ban? if they can ban fox hunting, they can move ahead and ban any other type of hunting sport and any other type of riding. . why? bc the people who band that dont like riding and dont like hunting (it's inhumane to ride a horse to those people). . . so it is a can of worms that people dont make the connection to other sports. . . i talked to someone once when i was younger, when the ban was being put together, he was a fox hunter/rider who told us he spoke to these people and he knows that if it was ever pushed thru that it'd not be the end, they'd keep going till all riding was banned.  

    i live in the country, i love animals, but that being said i have to choose: those cute little foxes in the den or my pets/birds. sry but my pets and birds won that choice. people who dont have to live in the country dont know what it's like to see your pets be cut up from a wild animal.  it's not pretty.

    anyway, sry i cant answer better then that, but i'm not exactly sure what hunting ban you are refering to.

  19. i dont think so, it doesn't make much different tbh. i went drag hunting last season and it was great, but had they actually been fox hunting  i would have hated it. i say it doesnt make it a differnence because nobody has stopped hunting! xx

  20. The ignorance in some of these answers is outstanding. I'm away to wash my eyes out with bleach, in case it's catching.

    To help the cause to lift the ridiculous ban, join the CA if you haven't already!  http://www.countryside-alliance.org/

    Edit: Many of you seem to be missing the point, pagan_princess4fun in particular!  The fox cannot be compared to other wild animals.  Imagine a giant vicious rat, and you may be on the right track.  Foxes destroy crops, spread disease, injure children, and kill countless pets as well as livestock.  A fox who gets into a farmer's chicken coop (or a child's rabbit hutch) will not just kill one animal to eat - it will kill the whole lot, because that's what foxes do.  The following night, it will be back for more - and the night after that, and the night after that, and so on and so forth.

    Hunting is the best method of controlling fox populations.  Shooting and snaring can leave an animal fatally wounded - but it may take a day or two before death finally occurs.  A fox is not ripped apart by hounds when still alive; the neck is swiftly broken, killing the fox, then the hounds eat the body.  It certainly doesn't have its legs torn off while still alive, as the LACS would have you believe.

    And yes, hunting is a way of life for a lot of people.  Perhaps football should be banned - after all, thousands of inner city workshy drunken louts gather to watch a game of football, and then stab supporters of the other team afterwards.  Isn't that far more damaging than ridding the countryside of a verminous pest?  The truth of the matter is that a lot of people are very ignorant about what hunting actually involves, and it all comes down to class.  Hunting was banned by a small group of Labour backbenchers and a PM who bent over backwards in an attempt to please and avoid party revolt - and all hinges on the idea that people who hunt are toffs in red coats.  Actually, people who hunt are doctors, and nurses, and lawyers, and supermarket shelf stackers, and mothers, and fathers, and royalty, and people in council flats.  The idea that we are all arrogant snobs is at best willfully uninformed.

  21. Its a cruel sport and the ban should never be lifted.

  22. NO WAY. any one that hunts should have the same done to them! people that kill animals for fun outta have the gun backfire!

  23. NO NO WAY NEVR!!!!!!!!!!!!! i live rite next 2 a huge field w/ lots of cute little animals i would NOT want killed. and besides, how would u like it trying 2 fal asleep or wake up  2 "POW POW POW POW POW POW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" not very pleasant anymore huh??

    EDIT: TROLL, hunting is nothing like street lighting or bus services. u dont NEED 2 hunt, but u NEED the buses and street lights so ppl can c and so that drunk ppl rnt driving if u knew anything about the CITY u would kno that

  24. Um no actually I dont.....I seriously doubt you would like chased through a field with a pack of dogs trying to rip you apart in the name of sport

  25. you are a very sick human being if you think people should be allowed to hunt again! its an awful thing to support! a poor fox being ripped apart by the hounds!! SICK SICK SICK!!!!!   oh and by the way TROLL i am a country girl and i love horse riding but i still dont agree with hunting!!

  26. No, especially in heavily populated areas. I read a story about a woman holding a baby wearing a white dress in her backyard when a bullet came through the surrounding woods and hit her baby. The hunter had mistaken them for a deer, do her child died IN HER OWN BACKYARD! Hunting is cruel and unneccesary, and you could get diseases from eating a sick animal

  27. NO WAY DO I WANT THAT BAN LIFTED THAT SPORT SHOWS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE IT ARE HEART LESS AND RIDE AROUND ON HORSE BACK WITH HOUNDS CHASING A FOX THAT IS RUNNING TIL HE IS OUT OF BREATH AND IS THINKING ABOUT HOW HE WILL NEVER SEE S(HE) FAMILY AND CHIDREN AGAIN

    HOW ABOUT YOU BE THE FOX AND WE BE THE RIDERS WITH HOUNDS AND CHASE YOU AROUND HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

    THE SPORT IS LAME AND HURTS AN ANIMAL



        

    SO I SAY NO

    NO

    NO

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    TO THIS INTOLERABLE SPORT!!!

  28. The problem with stopping hunting is that hunting gives land owners a reason to protect various wildlife species on their property.  When hunting is allowed land owners will often protect the wildlife because they like to hunt.  But when the government bans hunting the land owners often get angry and quit leaving land set aside for wildlife because they no longer have a use for it.  Thus the ban backfires as more and more land gives way to development.  I have seen it time and time again.  I have seen it here in America and as far away as Africa (I spent time in the Peace Corps.).  In fact this is why some countries in Africa are now reopening hunting.  They then use the hunting fees to provide huge incentives to villagers to catch poachers and leave some land set aside for wildlife.    They pay up to $50 per poacher caught and $5 per snare.  They also allow the villages to take a certain number of wildlife legally for bushmeat.  In those countries wildlife populations are coming up rapidly.

    I expect now that Fox Hunting is banned. Foxes will be largely exterminated because farmers will want to have them wiped out so that the farmers will have more birds and such to hunt.  Ban that hunting and they will utilize the places set aside for wildlife for other things such as to graze or raise crops.  I think they will also wipe foxes out to protect their chickens and other poultry.

  29. If someone wants to go out with a gun and dogs, to shoot game, rabbits pheasants etc for food.  Thats fine.   Hunting a fox with a pack of hounds just for the pleasure of killing it is sick.   "The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable".

  30. NO !

    If it is then I'm gonna start a hunt where 1000 hungry foxes are put in a room with one of those bloody cowards (and this time they don't have a horse, a gun or any dogs to help)

  31. People think because foxes look cute and cuddley they aren't vermin, wrong. Foxes kill animals just for fun, they don't always eat them. They still have to be controlled, they now often get trapped or poisoned which is usually a very long painful death. I do think the ban should be lifted and I support all the illegal hunts. A lot of these people who go on about how cruel it is have been brought up in the city or have not experienced life in a hunting community and are not willing to listen to the pros of fox hunting because. Hunting has been part of British heritage for so long and it's a shame it has had to stop. I feel for the people who's livelihood has been greatly affected and who have had to have their packs of dogs destroyed. Have a look at the facts http://www.supportfoxhunting.co.uk/index... x x

    ADD Everyone is entitled to a point of view so what's the crack with the thumbs down, that's just pure ignorance. I too am an animal lover but I understand the difference between domestic animals, working animals, livestock, and vermin. If people and dogs were chasing rats people would have nowt to say at all. Have these people against the hunt seen the damage foxes do? Have they been in a shed of newly born lambs and there mums after a fox has been in? Or a chicken coup?

    ADD2 I think some people are confused about the hunting ban. This affects FOX hunting, not hunting with a gun, that is still legal in the UK (with appropriate licences and permission from the land owner). It involves horses and hounds. It's not the hunting when you go off with a gun and shoot things. That tends to be deer and pheasant hunting, hunting for food. Fox hunting is not hunting for food.

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