Does anyone have a Hydrogen Generator fitted to their car?

Question

I am in the UK and I am building a hydrogen generator to fit in my car.

A/ Do you have or know anyone who has one?

B/ What sort of extra Gas milage increase are you getting?

C/ Did you build or buy it?

D/ If you bought it, where from?

I have heard claims of anywhere between 25 to 50% increase in gas milage

(We call it petrol, but same thing)

Answer 1

I don't even have a car yet dad. but when I do I'll be sure to ask you to fit one for me. lol

Answer 2

Not yet but it's currently under construction !

Answer 3

I have heard about it.

I wonder where from hmmm

Answer 4

First of all a hydrogen generator is only about 70% efficient at best.

It takes more energy to generate the hydrogen than you get back when you burn the hydrogen as fuel.

It makes no sense to have a hydrogen generator mounted to your car.

You will not get an increse in gas mileage, you will get a decrease in your gas mileage because you have introduced an inefficient step in the use of your gasoline.

If you are talking about a hydrogen generator that uses a metal to generate hydrogen from water, it takes far more energy to regenerate the native metal than you get back as hydrogen.

If you are talking about a hydrogen generator for your home using electricity to electrolytically generate hydrogen from water, these generally operate at about 70% efficiency and  require approximately 50 kilowatt hours of electricity to generate an amount of hydrogen that has an energy content equal to one gallon of gasoline.

The electricity is generated using fossil fuels in most cases. What you are doing is transferring the pollution from the location of the car to the power plant where the electricity was generated.

(Edit) I have been involved in the Environmental movement for ove 45 years. I am a scientist with far more experience and formal training in this area than you have.

I try to be nice when I respond to people like you who have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.

However this is a scam that has been around for over 45 years. It started out as a "penny stock" pump and dump scam and the morphed into a scam where the promoter would claim to have a secret invention for a hydrogen generator and you only have to send him an amount of money usually between $50 and $100 for the plans.

The plans are worthless and the promoter walks away with your money and is never heard form again.

A generator on your car requires energy to generate hydrogen. The emissions are not close to zero. You generate emissions when you generate the hydrogen. Unfortuately the process is inefficient you get much less enrgy back when you burn the hydrogen than you used to generate the hydrogen.

The other type of generator uses a metal to generate the hydrogen from water. The metal is oxidized and the hydrogen is reduced from the water.

It takes far more energy to reduce the metal bakc to its native state than you get from the hydrogen that is generated.

With respect to generating hydrogen with a solar panel. Yes some people do that. It requires approximately 50 kilowatt hours of electricity to produce an amount of hydrogen with the energy equivalent of one gallon of gasoline.

A typical solar photovoltaic installation that has a peak rated 3,000  watt capacity costs about $30,000 and produces approximately 10 to 12 kilowatt hours of electricity per day.

You will produce an amount of hydrogen with the energy equivalence of one gallon of gasoline approximately every 4 or 5 days.

If you finance that installation with a loan at the prime rate of interest which is 8.25%, the inerest cost on the loan for your solar panels will be approximately $2,475 per year or 61.88 cents per kilowatt hour.

Snce it requires 50 kilowatt hours of electricity to produce an amount of hydrogen with the energy equivalent of one gallon of gasoline, your cost of production of an amount of hydrogen with the energy equivalent of one gallon of gasoline is $30.94.

That is a rather expensive way to produce energy for transportation.

However if you have inherited a large amount of money from your parents and are very wealthy and want to spend your money that way, then I say go for it.

You make an ignorant insult to me at the end of your ignorant comments that I must work for an oil company.

I not only have never worked for an oil company, I have been fighting the oil companies for over 45 years.

When you accuse me of working for an oil company thatis an absurd thing to say and it tells me that you are nothing more than a cheap con artist looking to scam people out of their hard earned money.

. This is the kind of thing that the scammers that have been stealing  money from gullible people often say to scientists who point out that the scam is worthless and the promoter is just trying to steal your money.

When you make comments like that to me, that tells me that you are posting this because you want to lure people into paying for worthless plans or worthless equipment or worthless stock.

You are merely a con artist looking to steal money from gullible people who want to save the environment.

One of the most important functions that scientists like me perform is to  expose cheap scammers like you so that you are not able to steal money from people and distract from worthwhile activities that will save the planet.

You need to get an education so that you know what you are talking about. Then you need to do your homework so that you  are not wasting valuable time of people posting ridiculous, worthless,  recycled scams like the one that you are promoting.

You have to stop scamming people with worthless schemes and start doing something worthwhile.

(Edit) Again

You say you read my profile. You either do not know how to read or you are a liar.

I worked for the Carter administration during the Presidency of Jimmy Carter.

This was a United States  Government project designed to reduce poverty in the Middle East and improve the economy. This was a project designed to primarily benefit the Egyptian government and the people of Egypt.

It had absolutely nothing to do with oil.

You will note that I say very clearly that the Egypt project was cancelled at the request of the Muslim Clerics because the clerics felt that we would gain too much influence in that area.

If you had really bothered to read my profile you would know that had absolutely nothing to do with an oil company.

In fact we were strongly opposed to what the oil companies were doing in the Middle East.

Essentially the oil wealth went to a few corrupt Sheiks and dictators and the rest of the people were starving.  

The Egypt project was designed to benefit the majority of the poor people in the area who did not receive the benefits of the oil wealth that is being hoarded by a few corrupt Sheiks and dictators even to this day.

It was essentially a United States  Government project.

The fact that you would even post your comment tells me that you do not know how to read or are extremely careless with anything that you do read.

You are wasting people's time with a crooked scam that has been around for over 45 years.

This scam that you are promoting was around when I started in the Environmental field over 45 years ago.

It is a disgrace that 45 years later scammers are still stealing money from people with this.

    

You should not be wasting our time with this silly recycled scam that you have found.

Answer 5

I'm afraid this simply will not work.  If it did, it would be a perpetual motion machine and hopefully, we all know that that is impossible.  

What you are doing is using power from the engine to generate electricity, using that electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, and then burning the hydrogen to powe the engine.  

The problem is, each of these energy transformations is less than 100% efficient (second law of thermo dynamics), so you will not get enough energy from burning the hydrogen to make up for the energy needed to generate the electricity.  I hope you didn't pay anyone for the plans.

Answer 6

Not on the car but I know Honda is testing a home based generator.

Answer 7

you need three plastic bottles, ( I used the small 8 oz gatorade bottles, two for the electrolysis, 1 for the filter too filter out the oxygen) a couple feet of stainless steel wire about 20 ga. (to make the 2 electrodes for the two electrolyzers, just coil them up but dont let them touch!!! you will just generate alot of heat),  some 1/4 inch hose, a hot glue gun, some copper wire, fusses and fuse holders, a 1/4 needle valve (the vaccume pressure in the intake manifold is too high this is the trick to make it work), water and about 10 teaspoons of baking soda. for more info e-mail [e-mail] I am not selling a thing, I just want people to be aware.

Answer 8

Hybrid hydrogen powered cars, are just around the corner, and as oil prices increase, they will become standard form ,of transport within 20 years, much cheaper too run, in the long term ,versus expensive gasoline prices in the not too distant future.