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Does anyone remember when Hospital's were non-profit organizations? ?

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I was talking to an older gentleman today about health care, he said that Hospitals used to be non-profit(different than county hospitals) and that health care has gone up every since they privatized it.(kind of like when stadiums were taken over by Corps. the price of tickets went up) How hard would it be to do this again, and give cheap education for Doctors who will stay in America, in order to flood the market with more Doctors.Put a cap on malpractice lawsuits, and use tort reform on Pharmaceutical lobbyists, and giving better tax breaks on your income taxes, Doesn't that sound better than Socializing health care?

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  1. I certainly doubt if the 6-digit earning Michelle OBAMA will ever agree with you.  Her university hospital makes sure you are in court to squeeze poor's hard earned dollar for payment of hospital bills.


  2. I never knew that...but I do remember that ronald Regan campaigned for private medicine.....well not remember really since I wasn't born...but

    I live in a place were there is socialized medicine and they seem to take care of their elderly well.....they don't have as many nursing homes as we do because usually the families take care of the elderly.

  3. privet practices???

  4. Many, many hospitals are non-profit.  Prices keep going up, however, as reimbursment from insurance companies keeps going down and hospitals have to be able to pay the bills in order to keep the doors open.

    Also, yes, you can get free health care in Canada, but hopefully you dont get sick because it takes weeks to months to get into your doctors office - saw it on dateline.

  5. Yes-------Before the Politicians stuck their big noses into them. They worked great up until then. Give any organization public money and they will become addicted to it and then the Politicians have full control!

    First answerer:  Tell the amount of Federal funds thay take and the salaries for non Medical people. How much do the "Boards" get? They are not really "Non Profit"! If they funnel money to the Church, they are still "Non" Profit because the church is! Just a big play on words to avoid paying taxes. They do make a big profit. How come they pay Michelle Obama $350,000 a year if they are so broke! With Federal funds, arranged by Obama!

    Proud Vet

  6. If hospitals are being run by religious organizations then shame on them.  Hospitals today are terrible!  They're dirty, they make you wait forever to see a doctor while you're in agonizing pain and try to turn you into a walking pharmacy by giving you so many drugs.  I can count with one hand the times that I have seen a kind, caring doctor.  The only thing that they do good and efficiently is send you that hefty bill.

  7. Yes I do.  Community Hospitals.  

    St. Vincent near me is run by the Cathlic church.  Has nuns all over the place. It is for-profit.  (Church pays taxes on income it gets even though them.)

  8. Dont know where you live but in the US the vast majority of hospitals are non-profits run by religious organizations.

    Where do you live? I can tell you the major hospitals in your city and which religion sponsors it. I am a healthcare consultant.

  9. When you go to a hospital 50% of your bill is for CEO wages and Admin  costs.        Insurance is also in that 50% profit ratio.    

    Pre Reagan  health care was not for profit.   Which did not mean they were not allowed to make a profit they just had to reinvest the money they made or lower their prices once all the bills were paid.    

    We pay up 75% more for our Meds in the US then much of the rest of the world.

    Health Care is  Right not Privilege.  

  10. Nixon did that for us.

    Its the republican frickin way.

  11. Hey our hospitals are free in Canada and you can go to emergency as often as you like.

    How much better can it get?  

    A portion of our taxes go to it, doctors and nurses are paid by government, and necessary surgery is free.  Home care is available for seniors and others in need.

    Starting to see where you folks lack yet?

    And hey OURS isn't even THE BEST system.....you ought to see France...or Denmark...where dental and ortho work is free to all students and provided in the schools.

    And you think you're the greatest country?  Man oh man....

    You've got a Looooooong way to go there baby.

    CHURCHES RUN HOSPITALS TOO?  Well why should I be surprised.

  12. Read up on Michelle Obama's hospital, read how they have an entrance for poor people and an entrance for people with insurance or how they drag poor people to court that can't pay the bill.

  13. 1821?

  14. Hospitals now days are Big Business.  They don't care for life.

    The difference between Rep ideology and the rest of American is this.

    If your over 72 (GOP-Ideology) let them die

    GOP Dr's say if you have cancer at 72 don't look for it and don't treat it.

    Real Dr's say we need to treat that cancer and you can live another 20 years.

    The rest of American let them live a good life out until God takes them home.

  15. Cheap education for Doctors.. The AMA would never go for it, neither would liberal universities like Harvard who want government handouts and to control how many people are allowed an education.

    GOp have already put a cap on malpractice suits, which the Democrats want to reverse.

    MCain is for allowing imported low costs prescription drugs from Canad and letting the market force the price down.

    Obama wants to negotiate with Drug companies...


  16. I live in China as a transplanted American

    I had a real nasty fall about a year ago

    2 CAT scans, multiple X-rays and doctors visits over a two weeks time, the total bill came to $118

    I can live in China for about 1/10th the cost of living in the USA

    That would mean my hospital bill in the USA would be $1,180

    I believe the cost would be closer to $10,000 or more.

    Here is the kicker, we do have socialized health care for those that can not afford it.  Like the very poor, the indigent, etc.  We the tax payers end up paying the $10,000, not the $1,180

    Profit hospitals, insurance companies and our court and legal system all drive up the cost by a factor of ten.

    It is time to rip the rug out from under the insurance companies, lawyer and profit for human lives and health.

    I have yet to see a politician really support universal health care that did not, at the very least, involve the insurance industry.

    Socialized medical care is the only way to go to bring down the insane cost of health care in America.

    NOTE:

    I believe in capitalism, within limits, which we had before all the deregulation c**p that ended up costing us more and made life one h**l of a lot more complicated.

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    Life is so simple, but we insist on making it complicated

    Confucius

    551 - 479 BC

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    Peace

    Jim

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  17. It all started with the Health insurance companies...big business fueled by the party of big business...the republicans.  Republicans who do not vote for Women's issues, who do NOT believe in equal pay for equal work, who think they have a right to tell women what to do with their bodies.  

    All this would be extremely hard with the Republicans. Oh...tort reform...you are a republican. I always heard the PUMAs were republicans pretending to be Hillary Supporters....now I'm sorry that I joined.  And anyone who could vote for Palin thinking she replaces Hillary Clinton, just never did really support Hillary!  Palin and Clinton are as different as night and day in their ideology.  True Clinton supporters are not that naive nor plastic.  Got news for you..Hillary's cracks in the ceiling are in the Oval Office!  NOT the VP office...and Geraldine Ferraro was the first VP candidate.  

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