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Does pakstian have the right to exist?

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I hear all of you saying that israel was built on stolen land and belongs to the palestineans. So by your logic pakistan was also built on stolen lands and therefore should be given back to the indians.

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  1. Excuse me??

    Wasn't Muslims ruling India when Britishers invaded India??

    Isn't that true that Muslims were the ones who did almost all of the resistance against Britishers while Gandhi was making "peaceful" efforts???

    Isn't that true that Hindus have joined the armies with Britishers to kill Muslims??

    What would you do at this time??

    Isn't that true that Israel invaded Palestine much like the Britishers invaded India??

    According to your theory,

    Britishers have a right to rule South Asia and Israel have the right to rule Palestine and America has the right to rule Afghanistan and Iraq


  2. Every land is stolen land. History is filled with people who steal other people's land. That's the way it is. Now, if you where born somewhere, it's not your fault if someone stole it from someone else. If it where the case, there would be no white people in america or australia (just as an example). We should make the most of what we have now and stop thinking "well they stole it from us, so we steel it back, who cares if we kill a whole bunch of people doing it"

    Now, I don't know much about the history of Pakistan... don't even know if I could find it on the map. But what matters now is now.  

  3. But Pakistan wasn't built on stolen lands.  

  4. whats this obsession u ppl have with pakistan??? we have the right to exist like any other country, if ur not happy with the world, then thats ur own problem. GET OVER IT!!  

  5. Of course Pakistan has the right to exist and inshaAllah it will exist good, free from its enemies ameen.

    Pakistan was not stolen for your kind information, Muslims wanted their own land to practice their religion and beliefs accordingly, so they discussed, they fought for it, and then independence of Pakistan took place. its all about independence.

    if you see then even india was occupied by britishers, but indians fought and got their independence and thats why they celebrate 15 August for independence, same goes for pakistan.

    India got freedom from britishers--> Pakistan got it from India---> Bangladesh got it from Pakistan ,.,,,,,,,,,,~!

  6. your logic doesn't work here!!

    100,99% Pakistan has the right!!  

    Pakistan separate itself as independent country from India!!

  7. To other responders:

    It is injustice to say that Israel was made on stolen lands. Frankly speaking the Arabs themselves sold the land. The locals sold the BARRENED land of Israel at several times the cost of the land.

    The main problem arose, when the Jews started inhabiting the land and it became useful and started flourishing. At that point the locals that were left, they started attacking the Jews. To counter them a counter Jewish force also developed. However, the Jews got well equipped and near their declaration, they really massacred the locals badly and pushed them out.

    If we look with a very neutral point of view then:

    1-  The Earth belongs to God. And it is He who decides who inherits it.

    2-  No one can say that this land belongs to him. Because there was always someone who was there before him. Does India belong to Indians. The answer is "No". Because the Indians are the Arians who came in and persecuted the original population. The Original population of India are the lowest caste "the Shoodars".

    3-  From the very primitive times, the land of Israel was given to the Bani Israel as per Quran. And as Muslims we SHOULD NOT go against the Quran. We all know that deviation to it, would nullify our status as Muslims and we will be punished very heavily (as we are being punished).

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    Now coming to the second round of valid questions:

    1-  If the state of Israel is the cause of so many troubles and wars in the region. Then it is more worthwhile for the Americans to consider them giving a small state within USA. This would settle the matter once and for all.

    Why did the Europeans and the Americans chose Israel as the land for Jews and not a state within USA. There they would have been more secure and free from troubles of Middle East.

    Ans:

    There are LOT of lessons in the history of Jews. For those who are knowledgeable and those who wish to study the Quran carefully.

    The Jews have been through huge retribution and persecution through out the world. They were expelled from EACH and EVERY nation of the world, specially Europe. Their experience has finally concluded that they cannot be safe ANYWHERE in the world EXCEPT in Israel (the promised land). Therefore they themselves MUST have insisted (80-100 yrs ago) to go back to Israel. This perhaps is the ONLY reason of their choice of the land.

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    I think we should learn to live as UNCONCERNED neighbors to them. Look, we Muslims are blessed with vast land e.g. from Morroco to Brunai. It would be really a SHAME for us, if we cannot accomodate our palestinian brothers.

    Besides "Jerusalem" has NO value to us in Religious terms. The ONLY sacred cities for us are the Mecca and Medina. Jerusalem is just a political fight and more a matter of Ego.

    Those who say that "Mehdi" and "Isa" (Jesus) will gather the forces of Muslims in Jerusalem to fight the Dajjal (Anti Christ). And that is the reason that we should get hold of Jerusalem.

    They should see one VERY important fact:

    All these so called prophecies or signs of Judgement day, that are related to "Mehdi" and "Isa" (Jesus) are in "Hadith" and NONE (I would repeat absolutely NONE !! ) of these is in the Quran.

    Don't you ever wonder that All these may be wrong and fabricated.

    @TGS

    You don't know the facts. The fact is that "Pakistan" was NEVER supported by USA. As far as China is concerned "YES". But the major wars that we had with India were of 1965 and 1971. And no matter what material you read, the fact is that Pakistan was a clear victor of 1965 war. They lost the war on the negotiation table.

    Pakistan had a war reserve of ONLY 3-weeks. When India attacked Pakistan bashed India so harshly that India was begging peace in 2-weeks time. Had India continued (for they had a war reserve of 6 weeks), Pakistan would have lost.

    USA is w***e. With the exception of Israel, they have a very mean policy towards their allies. They provide a war reserve of only 14 days to their allies. When war breaks out, within one week they decide if the ally is to be supported or dispensed. If the answer is to support, then they come to rescue within the next week. Else the ally is just a king's pawn to be killed in the battlefield.

    These are the bitter lessons that Pakistan learned in the 1965 and 71 war. As a result Pakistan is slowly shifting its reliance to self and to China. The JF-17 project is a classic example of it.

    Regarding the Kargil. Again Pakistan had beaten India badly. Had it not been the castrated Nawaz Sharif, who yielded to the USA pressure and ACCEPTED and disclosed that YES it was the Pakistani forces (non-Uniform based) with ONLY the light arms in Kargil. It was the retreat that really caused casualties to us. Otherwise ask India, what was their condition.

  8. Get ready 2 get bombarded by our Pakistani bro & sis. I don't understand why people love to get into fights???????????

  9. Indians did not have pakistan before

    Pakistan do have the right to exist

  10. does any1 has  the right to terminate it ?!!!

  11. by ur logic Pakistanis r indians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  12. You are a realy stupid person, muslims and hindus lived together until the British came and caused the trouble like they done in Iraq, so India had to fight for the British in WW II to get independence and Pakisran for the muslims because INDIA DID NOT WANT MUSLIMS IN INDIA.

    AS FOR  ISRAEL THEY KICKED OUT THE PALESTINIANS STUPID, ITS THEIR LAND !!!  

  13. There were no country named either pakistan or india.

    The british conquered Indian subcontinent Hundreds of kingdoms by muslims and hindus and mainly by Moghul muslims.

    British made one country under their rule.

    while they left As per the request and agreement of people they divided into two.So there came two countries and from pakistan bangladesh got separated.

    But Israel was not by the people of That area, but imported from all over world against the will of the people of land, and it is illegal.

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