Does sexism and gender descrimination TRULY still exist?

Question

If you mention a fact, cite some proof, please.

I was discussing this issue with a friend.

me: women are totally equal to men now, they have just as many opportunities as a man.

her: What?! Sexism STILL exists.

me: How? a woman can do anything a man can.

her: Uh, no they can't. Trust me, there's still sexism.

me: cite one example please

her: they don't get paid as much.

me: do you have any proof? *feels foolish for resorting to the emergency argument for everything*

now is this true? that women don't get paid as much? can't possibly be true, can it?

Answer 1

No, women get paid as much as men.  It's illegal to do otherwise.

Answer 2

yes both still exist.

ex: women don't get paid as much and if they do we must work twice as hard as the men to recieve the same pay

also if the women is pretty they will most likely get hit on by male boss. and if she rejects him she would probaly get fired.

i know this cuz it happened to my mom

Answer 3

Read the recent case of Zoe Cruz, until recently the second in command at Morgan Stanley bank.

Taken down by the good old boys' network. It seems the good old boys were hysterical with jealousy and lied and cheated their way into forcing her resignation. This story makes me want to vomit.

http://nymag.com/news/business/46476/

Answer 4

Well, in North America, sexism is completely gone. Women get paid just as much as men.

As far as respect for women goes, there are probably some individuals who don't consider them equals.

On a legal level, however, there is no sexism.

In the Middle East however....

Answer 5

I think Tracey and Mudkip have posted wonderful answers!

Answer 6

Women take the lower paying jobs and as a result make less money.

The wage gap is a myth... its based on what women and men make COLLECTIVELY, not individually. SO with most business owners and wealthy people being MEN, it looks like men make more than women.

But they don't

Answer 7

Women can't play football.  That should say it all for you.

It's about respect, a women can't run a business as good as a man.

Answer 8

Duh, yes.

Answer 9

The Male Privilege Checklist

1. My odds of being hired for a job, when competing against female applicants, are probably skewed in my favor. The more prestigious the job, the larger the odds are skewed.

2. I can be confident that my co-workers won’t think I got my job because of my s*x - even though that might be true. (More).

3. If I am never promoted, it’s not because of my s*x.

4. If I fail in my job or career, I can feel sure this won’t be seen as a black mark against my entire sex’s capabilities.

5. I am far less likely to face sexual harassment at work than my female co-workers are. (More).

6. If I do the same task as a woman, and if the measurement is at all subjective, chances are people will think I did a better job.

7. If I’m a teen or adult, and if I can stay out of prison, my odds of being raped are relatively low. (More).

8. On average, I am taught to fear walking alone after dark in average public spaces much less than my female counterparts are.

9. If I choose not to have children, my masculinity will not be called into question.

10. If I have children but do not provide primary care for them, my masculinity will not be called into question.

11. If I have children and provide primary care for them, I’ll be praised for extraordinary parenting if I’m even marginally competent. (More).

12. If I have children and a career, no one will think I’m selfish for not staying at home.

13. If I seek political office, my relationship with my children, or who I hire to take care of them, will probably not be scrutinized by the press.

14. My elected representatives are mostly people of my own s*x. The more prestigious and powerful the elected position, the more this is true.

15. When I ask to see “the person in charge,” odds are I will face a person of my own s*x. The higher-up in the organization the person is, the surer I can be.

16. As a child, chances are I was encouraged to be more active and outgoing than my sisters. (More).

17. As a child, I could choose from an almost infinite variety of children’s media featuring positive, active, non-stereotyped heroes of my own s*x. I never had to look for it; male protagonists were (and are) the default.

18. As a child, chances are I got more teacher attention than girls who raised their hands just as often. (More).

19. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether or not it has sexist overtones.

20. I can turn on the television or glance at the front page of the newspaper and see people of my own s*x widely represented, every day, without exception.

21. If I’m careless with my financial affairs it won’t be attributed to my s*x.

22. If I’m careless with my driving it won’t be attributed to my s*x.

23. I can speak in public to a large group without putting my s*x on trial.

24. Even if I sleep with a lot of women, there is no chance that I will be seriously labeled a “slut,” nor is there any male counterpart to “slut-bashing.” (More).

25. I do not have to worry about the message my wardrobe sends about my sexual availability or my gender conformity. (More).

26. My clothing is typically less expensive and better-constructed than women’s clothing for the same social status. While I have fewer options, my clothes will probably fit better than a woman’s without tailoring. (More).

27. The grooming regimen expected of me is relatively cheap and consumes little time. (More).

28. If I buy a new car, chances are I’ll be offered a better price than a woman buying the same car. (More).

29. If I’m not conventionally attractive, the disadvantages are relatively small and easy to ignore.

30. I can be loud with no fear of being called a shrew. I can be aggressive with no fear of being called a *****.

31. I can ask for legal protection from violence that happens mostly to men without being seen as a selfish special interest, since that kind of violence is called “crime” and is a general social concern. (Violence that happens mostly to women is usually called “domestic violence” or “acquaintance rape,” and is seen as a special interest issue.)

32. I can be confident that the ordinary language of day-to-day existence will always include my s*x. “All men are created equal,” mailman, chairman, freshman, he.

33. My ability to make important decisions and my capability in general will never be questioned depending on what time of the month it is.

34. I will never be expected to change my name upon marriage or questioned if I don’t change my name.

35. The decision to hire me will never be based on assumptions about whether or not I might choose to have a family sometime soon.

36. Every major religion in the world is led primarily by people of my own s*x. Even God, in most major religions, is pictured as male.

37. Most major religions argue that I should be the head of my household, while my wife and children should be subservient to me.

38. If I have a wife or live-in girlfriend, chances are we’ll divide up household chores so that she does most of the labor, and in particular the most repetitive and unrewarding tasks. (More).

39. If I have children with a wife or girlfriend, chances are she’ll do most of the childrearing, and in particular the most dirty, repetitive and unrewarding parts of childrearing.

40. If I have children with a wife or girlfriend, and it turns out that one of us needs to make career sacrifices to raise the kids, chances are we’ll both assume the career sacrificed should be hers.

41. Magazines, billboards, television, movies, pornography, and virtually all of media is filled with images of scantily-clad women intended to appeal to me sexually. Such images of men exist, but are rarer.

42. In general, I am under much less pressure to be thin than my female counterparts are. (More). If I am fat, I probably suffer fewer social and economic consequences for being fat than fat women do. (More).

43. If I am heterosexual, it’s incredibly unlikely that I’ll ever be beaten up by a spouse or lover. (More).

44. Complete strangers generally do not walk up to me on the street and tell me to “smile.” (More: 1 2).

45. On average, I am not interrupted by women as often as women are interrupted by men.

46. I have the privilege of being unaware of my male privilege.

(Compiled by Barry Deutsch, aka “Ampersand.” Permission is granted to reproduce this list in any way, for any purpose, so long as the acknowledgment of Peggy McIntosh’s work is not removed. If possible, I’d appreciate it if folks who use it would tell me how they used it; my email is barry-at-amptoons-dot-com.)

(This is a continually updated document; the most current version of The Male Privilege Checklist can always be found at amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-che...

Answer 10

As a CEO of a company. I was once an assistant manager for a grocery store. That means I did see what was on most people's check. I noticed that some of the women were paid less and when I asked the manager he said because the men are stronger and can work more dependable. So yes it still exist, but not in my company. I pay my employees based on education and experience not gender.

Answer 11

Yep, especially sexism against men.  Some examples..

Draft, Affirmative action, quotas for women, unequal punishment for crimes, unequal depictions of violence against women and men, men have no reproductive rights, acts that address only women, rape shield laws, insurance, double standards in the case of rape, uneven social programs, biased health concerns (focus a lot more on women's health, aka breast cancer), child support, and entire government offices specifically for women's affairs.

Just to name a few.

Answer 12

If a woman does the same work, works the same hours, and has the same dedication to her job as a man, she gets paid the same. I am not a victim. I do not need affirmative action or any other kind of special treatment. I am a real woman who gets what she gets on her own, and I am NOT a feminist.

Answer 13

Yes, you're right. It does.

Answer 14

Sexism doesn't just exist by denying opportunities or equal pay. It also exists by making baseless assumptions about someone's behaviour just because they're male or female. As we have seen throughout this campaign, it's definitely still alive.

Answer 15

Women get paid as much as men- at least they should, and they do (in productive industries like the pornographic industry, ha ha- its true!) for the most part. However there are excuses that stem from actual female characteristics that often cause employers to not promote women, etc.

Like maternal leave, and sometimes even being less resilient, etc.

While a modern day feminist might say: 'there's clearly a problem - we should stop giving birth, become lesbians, start on bodybuilding exercises, kill all the men and genetically engineer female babies' (<---a far cry from what they originally fought for, which was the very respectable claim to equality and freedom); I think women do better at management/administration related jobs in the midle of the job spectrum (in terms of pay) and some people actually prefer female receptionists, secretaries, clerks, assistants, etc.

In most Asian countries (Japan, Singapore, etc.) and even a few European countries there's never really been a problem of sexism, people have always been considered equal. The self-fulfilling problems that inflict North America, etc. is mainly the aftermath of adopting a strictly secularist philosophy. Though they'll get through it soon enough!

Answer 16

Of course it's ILLEGAL to pay discriminate.

And even more evident is that men can work in everyway a woman can - and more. The reverse cannot be said. So why would it make any economic sense that women and men broadly make the same amount of money when they don't generate the same amount of money?   That's not efficient.

Answer 17

There are still industries in America that are male-dominated, and yes, good-old-boys clubs still exist.  Men tend to gravitate towards one another at the office and discuss work-related topics, but when they approach women, they tend to discuss more personal topics.  Unless women find a way to cross the fence and get in on the strategizing in the men's circles, they're getting short-changed.

Answer 18

Well said Gun Fanatic.

Sexism against men is very real.