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Does this web site describe many that post here?

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Environmentalism is not about a desire to have cleaner water and air. It is now a full-fledged religion, and its main tenet is "raw nature" as god-like, and Mankind as a plague infecting it. If you support environmentalism, the fact is that you're supporting an ideology that promotes the destruction of Mankind - and concretely, that includes yourself and everyone you care about.

http://www.environmentalism.com/

Are Not their Ideas about Overpopulation/Depopulation a part of this?

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  1. No.

    Mankind isn't separate from nature, it's a part of it.  It's purely for selfish motives (the continuation of our own prosperous and enjoyable lives and those of our descendants) that should motivate us to acknowledge the reality of AGW and deal with it.

    Just because there's a religious extremist that agrees with me on a scientific issue, doesn't mean the scientific issue is religious.  That's the kind of twisted "logic" a certain pretend Dr. around here used last week.


  2. I haven't personally seen anything like that in Yahoo Answers, but on the other hand fascist extremist websites like this one are a dime a dozen these days, so  maybe the idea is that enough unsupported allegations will eventually outweigh a century of research.

  3. You are absolutely right!!!  If it weren't for that 60 million year gap between us and dinosaurs, then we would be blamed for their extinction too.

    GOD forbid if we leave nature alone and let nature decide for herself what happens.  There has to be some extremists out there who thinks that we are responsible for everything remotely negative that occurs.

  4. My God that's ridiculous! To even think of making a connection between environmentalism and terrorism like that site is doing!

    Extremism in any form can become dangerous. That of course also applies to extreme environmentalism. But creating fear for different groups based on for example their ideologies, belief or where they live is more dangerous.

    No wonder there is so many wars going on in this world!

  5. I think they are the counterbalance to right-wing zealots. 90% of the population could care less about either of these hard-core elements. So, I would ask you not to infer that I am related to those groups.

  6. There are a few, but not too many.  Pantheists, like any other religion have their fringes, but for the most part I don't think it is a widely held belief.  I could be quite wrong on this, theology is not one of my interests.

    Interestingly enough Dr Suzuki is an adviser to Patherism.net.  So being a pantheist, does that make his speeches sermons?  You betcha!

  7. Most, NOT ALL, environMENTALists are a little screwed up in the head.  They have their priorities completely backward.

  8. It seems like the majority of people in this forum take the fringe view that AGW is a myth. Those of us who accept the concensus of the establishment are not by any means mother-earth religionists, thoguh I am sure some are.

    I agree with you that anthropomorphizing mother nature is like a religion, and is unscientific and silly. The fact that some people do this is not an argument against the need to be environmentally conscious. It is merely a distraction from the issues, a very popular strawman tactic (ie... Bob is a gaia believing tree hugger, therefore the whole environmentalist movement is like a religion).

    Ooops, I didn't mean to make any reference to the Bob that posts here.

  9. I couldn't agree with you more.

    It's a religion that has its main goal as man is evil and needs to be sacrificed for the good of humanity.

    The tenets are than mans accomplishments, reasoning, and intelligence is bad for man.  This is the reason the industrial age is held in contempt by them.

    It's a religion based on the mental illness of Altruism.

    Tuba - Fascism is nothing more than the Italian idea of National Socialism.  It is not right wing.

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