Eating animals is the best thing for them?

Question

Do you not eat animals because it is unfair on the animal? Do you realise that the animals that are the most successful, widespread and numerous are the ones we eat for food. A species of animal is very lucky if we decide to eat it. They are given all the food they need and all the protection to grow numerous. In terms of genetic success animals should be pleased that we use them as a food source.

Answer 1

Chef Bette said it all :)

Answer 2

Why do you care so much about what I eat?

Answer 3

Perhaps the species is 'lucky', but the individual is not.

Answer 4

Well, that depends. Is it lucky to be injected with hormones and chemicals to make you grow bigger and fatter more quickly than can be supported by your bone structure? Is it lucky to be stuck in a tiny enclosure for the entirety of your artificially shortened lifespan? Is it lucky to have your throat slit or to have you children ground alive or thrown into a plastic bag and suffocated?

If it is, I guess the animals we eat are lucky.

Answer 5

I'm sure the animals would be thrilled, if they knew we were fattening them up just to eat them!  ... I'm not a vegetarian, but I find this question (and comments) totally bizarre.....

Answer 6

you're right to a point... some of the animals we eat aren't treated so well, but then again, had we left them alone their species may not even exist now

And, in response to the one that said carnivores are stupid... Humanity only exists because our ancestors became carnivores. Once those pre-humans began eating meat, their brains became larger and more complex.

and one more thing... Bette, when you show me that you are a Doctor specializing in gastroenterology, then maybe I'll believe your drivel.

Answer 7

Food and protection...what a tradeoff for being happy and alive.  Don't you think that the animals would rather be roaming free than on your dinner plate?  What drivel.

How do you think animals like pigs, cows and chickens became so "successful" and widespread anyway?  It's because humans decided to raise these animals for food and therefore farmed these animals and increased their numbers unnaturally.

If being eaten is your definition of "lucky," then go join a tribe of cannibals.

Answer 8

There is this place called a slaughter house, do some research on it, then tell us if they are given all the food they need and all the protection to grow numerous.

**walks away.......slowly***

Answer 9

Excuse me but are you unaware that the computer industry is loaded/packed with Asians -- Indians to be exact -- who have been vegetarian from birth and are basically brilliant? Are you unaware that the hospitals in these United States would be in  serious trouble if it were not for the doctors who are also from that population? And the colleges would also be suffering as would their students were not for the Indian (vegetarian) professors of Physics, Theoretical Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, Computer Science, and Engineering? Are you unaware of one of the greatest poets -- Nobel Prize winning Tragore is also from that population? Intelligence is genetically determined and in the case of many of these people enhanced by their classical music which -- unlike the rap of the ghetto, or the 4 count of Rock and Roll -- is based on rhythmic patterns of such complexity as 18 counts to a measure, with the first and ninth accented, or twelve beats to a measure, or nine etc. There are different rhythmic patterns of such immense complexity for each hour of the day. The art of khatak -- temple dancing -- engages the dancer and the tabla player in remarkable displays of such expressions of mathematical expertise in a breath taking art form.

Do you really want to try to link intelligence to eating meat?

Just given this evidence from one culture out of many, I don't think that your statement holds up to any scrutiny whatsoever.

Furthermore, any animal that finds its entire life proscribed by the horrors of factory farming -- and I'll let PETA describe them to you (they turn my stomach) is hardly 'lucky', nor are the foolish consumers who gluttonously ingest their flesh three or four or five times a day; flesh laden as it is with steroids, growth hormones, antibiotics and pesticides. Yum! Americans are grossly overweight and obese due to these practices and their health is suffering due to it as well. But then they are eating the tainted meat so how intelligent are they?

And of course all those dead carcasses putrefying in their guts cause many millions of people to suffer chronic constipation. Fecal matter impacted in the gut is the number one cause of disease.  Perhaps it takes a heightened intelligence to figure out that there is a cause and effect at work between what goes into one end of the alimentary tract and what fails to emerge from the other naturally,

without aid from laxatives.

Then there is the issue of a planet in peril and the intelligent humans who cut down the rain forest to grow beef. Seriously, the abuses are amazing and it doesn't take a whole lot of intelligent thought to figure it out. But to help you understand the connectedness of it all - many people, such as John Robbins, vegan, have written definitive books on the subject. Go read, and get over your bad self.

Answer 10

Which studies are you referring to exactly? This one?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/618075...

If anything, it shows exactly the opposite of what you are purporting.

And sorry, but you're wrong on your other point as well. The animals that are the most successful, widespread and numerous are NOT the ones most humans eat for food. The most numerous and widespread animals are the insects, which, let's face it, are only eaten in some parts of east Asia, and by Australian Aborigines and a few other indigenous groups. The most numerous and widespread MAMMALS are either rodents (once again, only eaten in parts of east Asia and by a few indigenous groups) or humans (which are only eaten by cannibals, sharks, pythons, alligators, crocodiles, lions, tigers, piranha, etc.). Next would be traditional domestic pets such as dogs and cats (once again, only eaten in parts of east Asia) - which are "given all the food they need and all the protection to grow numerous". After all those, only then do you get down to the animals most frequently and traditionally eaten by humans - cattle, sheep, fowl, swine, deer and goats. Nice try, troll.

Answer 11

I agree with you. Most of these vegans/vegetarians seem to not be grasp the fact that if we did not eat the animals we would have no need to have them exist at all. So in eating them at least they are alive and aren't going the way of the animals in the Africa. Besides how do those animals know they are being treated badly  (if they are at all)? People several centuries ago went about their business without knowing what a cell phone was or that a tractor could let them farm more easily. How then do animals know that their lot in the world is bad compared to ours? You can't miss what you never had.

As to what Chef Bette said.

The 'superior" intelligence of the Indians is not related to ther diet. It is more likely from the fact that their culture has emphacized education more than ours (American I'm assuming) has. Plus their are what a billion Indians compared our 300 million or so? It seems more likely that they only seem smarter because they have more people which allows for more people to be smart while still keeping the same percentage in the population. I would bet you I could go to India and find countless "stupid" people who were vegetarians. I already know some vegetarians that I wouldn't classify as highly intelligent. In any case, those Indians must be coming over to our terrible, animal hating country for a reason. Maybe it is because we meat-eaters have a better country than they do. I guess they were too busy caring for some cow instead of persuing the sciences.

Answer 12

People are jumping your case because they don't like what you are implying, but by logic, you are making a valid point.  Plants have benefited the same way a cow has.  Did you know corn was developed from a wild grass that originally had "ears" no bigger than the tip of your finger? Man has made corn, and most other fruits and vegetables.  Very little of what we eat existed in its present form before man decided it was valuable and useful.

Answer 13

i would have no problem eating animals if they were treated fairly. i am aware that we as humans are at the top of the food chain, but we should be smart enough to know that even though they are animals, they have feelings. if cows and pigs and other animals were treated more humane, i would have an 8 ounce burger, a full rack of ribs, and all the chicken wings i could eat. trust me ;)

Answer 14

the animals are widespread and numerous because humans do all sorts of artificial things to the animals to make them that way.

Answer 15

Recently a study stated that vegetarians have a higher average IQ than meat eaters. Also, your post is mean, hurt and insulting.

Answer 16

I don't know where you got that statistic that meat-eaters have higher intelligence.  I have read widely-accepted studies that say just the opposite-- that, for whatever reasons, vegetarians are the ones that tend to have higher I.Q.'s than their meat-eating counterparts.

Actually, the animals we eat exist in an abundance not because they thrive in a natural setting, but because we breed them because we want to use them as food.  Yes, it is beneficial to an ecosystem to reduce the population of a species when it has exploded due to a lack of natural predators; one example of this is hunting deer when there are so many of them that they are starving because there isn't enough food for them all.  But, in the meat industry, the large amounts of animals bred are not natural.  They're bred in huge numbers SO THAT we can kill them and eat them.

And, what an animal was "bred for" has nothing to do with what capacity it has to suffer.  In the 1800's, many African Americans were actually "bred" to be slaves.  That had nothing to do with their needs and wants, though.  They still WANTED to be free, and they still had the capacity to feel pain and suffer.  Just because they were bred to be mindless work robots does not mean that they were satisfied to be mindless work robots.  In the same way, food animals still feel pain and want to be free, even though they're bred for food.