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Even though Invasor was a better horse why is his fee only 30000 and Bernardinis is 100000?

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Even though Invasor was a better horse why is his fee only 30000 and Bernardinis is 100000?

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  1. It could be the quality of the bloodline or it could purely be marketing.


  2. It might have something to do with how Invasor is in his first season of breeding and Bernardini has been breeding for a year now...  Bloodlines might have something to do with it, but I think Invasor's better record and having accomplished a lot more would outweigh the bloodlines.  I really do think his first year of breeding has a lot to do with it...  I think it will go up once he successfully breeds with a mare and it will certainly go up once he makes some foals with good conformation and then they become stakes winners.

  3. The people above are correct. It is all about pedigree. Bernardini's sire (AP Indy) has produced dozens of great runners. Candy Stripes (Invasor's sire) is not quite as successful. So the presumption (for now) is that Bernardini would be more likely to sire a champion.

    Like others said though, the fees might be quite different in ten years or so, depending on how many top horses are sired by the two.

  4. There are several elements which are different between Bernardini and Invasor.

    In the first place, the market conditions between last year and this are drastically different.  In 2006 records were set for the highest priced paid at auction for any horse, 2yo, horse of racing age, and Keeneland September yearling.  When people pay a lot of money at auctions, stud fees go up.  This year the market is undergoing a drastic correction - especially in the upper level of the market.  The Keeneland September sale currently has a leading price of $3.7 million (compared to over $11 million last year).  Stud fees will invariably decline.  Even Overbrook Farm has talked about reducing Storm Cat's fee (although I doubt it will actually happen).  

    It's also worth noting that many experts believe that Invasor's announced fee of $30,000 is still below what the market would bear - especially considering his book will be limited to 85 mares.  Why doesn't Sheikh Hamdan want to maximize the profits?  Because, quite simply, by underpricing Invasor they are guaranteeing that they will be oversubscribed by mares interested in breeding to him.  This allows them to pick and choose the absolute best mates that compliment Invasor's pedigree and conformation.

    Now it is true that Bernardini has a much more fashionable pedigree.  His sire A.P. Indy has been a leading sire in the US for years, was himself a multi-million dollar yearling, champion racehorse and the heir to the immortal Seattle Slew.  Invasor's sire Candy Stripes was bred in the US, raced in France and sent to Argentina for stud duty.  He was quite successful down there, but repatriated to the US in 1997 he never made a major mark and moved steadily down from Kentucky to Florida to not returning to the US.  Furthermore, South American breds who race successfully in the US have not had nearly the same success in the breeding shed.  Recent failures include Gentlemen, Siphon and recent sprint sensation Pico Central who didn't even last to see his first babies hit the track before being returned to SA.

  5. i think invasor was a older horse and his blood line was better

    and bernadinis has champion all in his blood line, did you see the

    Preakness, i don't think the favorite in that race would have held

    him off in the stretch, even if he had not went lame during the running

    of the 2ND leg of the triple crown.

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