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Evolutionists, if your theory is true, then why haven't bugs evolved the ability to avoid bug zappers?

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If everything evolves and gets bigger, stronger, smarter, and better like you say it does, I would think that by now the bugs would have evolved.

Also, why don't germs evolve? According to your theory, they should be evolving to resist the drugs me make.

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  1. Thank you for adding to the mounds of evidence that people who use made up terms like "evolutionists" DON'T know jack about actual evolution.

    Such people are so willfully ignorant about evolution that even their questions about it are free of sense and knowledge.

    Have you heard of germs and viruses developing immunities to antibiotics ? Duh.


  2. You must be quite naive. Bug killers must be changed often, since bugs become resistant to them. The same is true of germs and viruses. I have been on antibiotics often the past few years, and I must switch to different ones often. You need to do some research and stop reading creationist nonsense.

  3. Evolution can't make something with a limited nervous system and brain smarter. (At least, not in a few generations).

    Viruses do evolve. Why do you think the Avian flu is so prevalent now? Originally it could not transmit to humans, but now it can hop from birds to humans, though humans cannot transmit to humans yet.

  4. If you believe that "everything evolves and gets bigger, stronger, smarter, and better," then you don't understand evolution at all. Anything you say about evolution is suspect because you're starting from a false premise.


  5. I hate to inform you of this but there are germs that have evolved to be resistance to the antibiotics currently being used. It's a real concern in the medical community.

  6. Oh man... you totally missed the meaning of "survival of the fittest."  It doesn't always mean "bigger stronger, smarter, and better," it simply means that a population of organisms will adapt to their environment.  That could mean something like losing its eyes over a period of thousands of generations if it doesn't need them, in say, a cavern environment.  That would be the members of the population that are fittest to survive in the dark.  And the variation is endless.  Some remedial reading over at Wikipedia or TalkOrigins would have cleared this up for you before you even asked.  Google is your friend.  Of course, that requires a small amount of effort on your part.

    Oh, and "germs" (or rather viruses and bacteria) evolve very quickly to many of the drugs and antibiotics we develop to fight them.

  7. Germs HAVE adapted to drugs. Why do you think they haven't cured the common cold? Bugs are gaining resistance to many kinds of pesticides. Not all bugs fly to the zappers, and those haven't been invented long enough to effect them on a truly evolutionary scale yet.

    The cockroach keeps kicking if you cut of its head and stick in in a freezer. I think bugs are doing alright.

  8. YOU DID IT!!! YOU JUST DISPROVED OVER 150 YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH AND EVIDENCE WITHOUT EVEN OPENING A SINGLE TEXTBOOK!!!!

  9. Yep they should be, and they are not. According to evolutionists, bugs have been around for "millions and millions of years" so they should also be really big so no one steps on them and other animals can't eat them. Because they evolve adapt to their problems, and getting stepped on is a problem.

    And uh, haven't you evolutionists heard of the couple who had a freshwater fish and for a week they added little bits of salt to the water. When they put the fish back into freshwater, the fish died immediatly. There you have evolution -- freshwater fish to saltwater fish, and it only took a week. Not millions of years.

    I do believe in that kind of evolution. But I don't think I came from an ape who came from an exploding rock. (and they think Christians have a far fetched theory! because I mean, exploding rocks evolving into everything there is today makes so much more sense. *sarcasm*)

    Also, if everything is supposed to be getting better, why is there proof all around us that everything is getting worse? The sun isn't gaining power or staying the same or becoming the perfect temperature. it's slowly burning out. Stars are burning out, not getting brighter. And it seems people are getting stupider not smarter, because they believe all the evolution c**p.

  10. They will eventually...evolution is not an overnight process. If bug zappers were as old as bug, then they would resist it by now. However by the time they resist bug zappers humans will invent a superior bug killing machine anyway.

    "Also, why don't germs evolve? According to your theory, they should be evolving to resist the drugs me make."

    actually there are plenty of germs that have resisted pesticide/drugs/antibiotics...

  11. Where have you been? Germs do eventually resist drugs.

    Like Staph: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7407654/

    Things evolve to fit their environment, which may or may not include getting bigger, stronger, etc.

  12. Viruses and bacteria are evolving to be more resistant. In fact the over use of antibiotics has cause a large number of strains that are resistant to most antibiotics.

    Evolution does not state that anything will get bigger, stronger, smarter or even better.  

    Given the large number of insects that are not attracted to bug zappers, how can you determine if they have or have not started to evolve or not?  Also bug zappers are not a significant force in the environment and their impact on the bug population is fairly low.

  13. Ok, like everyone here has pointed out, Germs do eventually develop resistance to drugs. The flu virus is mutating constantly, that is why you need to get a new strain of flu shot each year. This is a sign of evolution.

    As for the bugs. The process does not happen over night. However, it is possible that there could eventually be bugs that do avoid bug zappers.

    Bugs have the inherent trait to attract to light. In a gene pool of a species of a certain bug, the bug (Bug A) that has a mutated gene and is less attracted to the light produced by the bug zapper will have the ability to reproduce and spread its gene's (including the mutated gene) out into the gene pool more effectively than bugs born without the mutated gene. The children of Bug A will also be provided more possibilities to spread their genes because of the shared gene. Eventually a descendant of Bug A will be born with the same gene but slightly more mutated, making this bug, Bug B, even less attracted to lights, and this cycle could continue indefinitely during which time most of the gene pool will be made of descendants of Bug A and B who have had an easier time living long enough to mate and bear offspring.

  14. If evolution is not true then how come humans have an appendix or tonsils when they don't serve any purpose for our lives.  Answer is they at one point did but we evolved to the point that we dont need them.

    Germs do evolve.  Look up Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus.  It is a staff infection that evolved because of over use of medications toward normal staff infections.  There are only about 5 medicines that work against it because of its resistance against medications.

  15. Keep zapping the bugs for a couple of millions of years, and they will be resistant to zappers. And germs most definitely evolve.

  16. things evolve only if they need to (not everything does or evolves at the same pace)  if you read a biology/zoology book you would know that. Frogs, cockroaches, alligators, some sharks, etc. and virus' and germs do evolve.  why do you think there are so many new strains of flu, and more and more drug resistant illness'.   Please do you research before you shout out from your pulpit.   By the way, can you prove your theory?

  17. Very smart observation. It's true though, evolution just means change in time. Evolutionist just want something to keep saying that God doesn't exist. But God does exist and He is the only thing that doesn't change. He is the same today, tomorrow and forever! The Alpha and the Omega! :D

    I don't  believe that I evolved from ape, I do not look like ape. I was beautifully and wonderfully made! Science contradicts itself, that's why there is not a constant science book. It changes every year. The only book that is flawless is the Bible. Now I don't understand everything in it, but that's ok I can't know everything.

  18. You mean like MRSA? (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus), which quite clearly hasn't evolved to be immune to most drugs?

    Right about now I'm desperately hoping that you don't work in healthcare.

  19. Germs do evolve. Have you ever heard of MRSA??? An evolution takes place over a long period of time. Bug zappers are fairly recent. Try A LOT harder and come back later when you have a better question.

  20. Germs do evolve.  This is why there is no cure for the flu:  the virus is continually evolving.

    Evolution does not necessarily cause organisms to become "bigger, stronger, smarter,"  and certainly not "better" (a value judgment that has no application in evolutionary terms).  Evolution causes changes to successive generations of an organism.  If the change causes the new organism to be better suited to its environment, then the organism will be more likely to reproduce to take advantage of natural resources.  Being bigger, stronger, or smarter does not necessarily mean any given organism is better suited to its natural habitat.  Bugs have the distinct evolutionary advantage of being so numerous that extinction is largely impossible.  Thus, there is no need for an insect to grow smart enough to avoid a bug zapper, and one that is smart enough to do so wouldn't necessarily be more likely to reproduce than every other insect of the same species.

  21. "Evolutionists, if your theory is true, then why haven't bugs evolved the ability to avoid bug zappers?"

    Not enough generations yet. It's hardly a leading cause of insect fatalities, and the zappers haven't exactly been around for that long.

    "Also, why don't germs evolve? According to your theory, they should be evolving to resist the drugs me make."

    ... yes, they do. All the time. Ever hear of MRSA? Seriously, just Google "drug-resistant bacteria". There are, like, 426,000 results.

    This cannot be a serious question.

  22. There are drug-resistant bacteria.  Please learn more about evolutionary theory and the HUNDREDS of generations such changes require.

    It is a very bad idea to criticize a theory that you clearly don't even know anything about.

  23. Avoiding a bug zapper would be a learned behavior, not evolution. Unfortunately for the bugs, they don't have the brain capacity to learn the behavior, and even if they did, they get only one chance to learn.

    If diseases didn't "evolve" ("mutate" is actually the correct term, since this is a case of micro-evolution), then why do we constantly need to create new medicines in order to take care of the same diseases? Look at the AIDS virus. There a many different variations of it. This is because the virus keeps mutating to counteract the effects of the medicine we make to deal with it. If the AIDS virus didn't mutate, it would be extinct, or nearly so.

  24. You have got to be kidding me.

    You ever wonder why you need a new flu shot every year?

    Because the germs EVOLVE to resist the flu shot.  

  25. Are you serious?  

    Okay, well, bug zappers don't kill a significant enough portion of the population to require bugs to evolve.  Evolutionary pressures affect the likelihood of successful mating.  If bug zappers actually had a broad, population-wide effect, then they would evolve to either resist or avoid them.  Bugs have shown adaptations which make them resistant to some pesticides which do act on entire populations.

    Evolution states that creatures will evolve to best fill an ecological niche, not get bigger, better, stronger, whatever.  Mice and rats perfectly fill a certain niche in cities as scavengers.  They won't get larger as that would affect their ability to gather their food.  They may change to better camouflage, resist certain diseases or poisons, eat certain foods, etc.  They have developed some reasoning skills because of their closeness and continuous conflict with man.  

    And I suggest you look up drug resistant staphylococcus.

  26. You fail at biology. The bacteria have evolved; that's why penicillin is no longer as effective as it was. Also, Bug zappers are a relatively recent invention, and the bug zappers designs are improving faster then the bugs, so they do not have time to evolve.

  27. Seriously? Ok, evolution doesn't imply getting bigger, stronger, etc. Evolution is all about becoming better adapted to fit your environment. Like evolving better ways to feel for food, while evolving inhibitors for the production of eyes when an animal lives in a dark cave.

    And germs do evolve, that's why there are so many problems with this new anti-biotic resisting staph strain.  

  28. Ermm, hard one to answer this.  why haven't bugs eveolved to resisi the drugs we make?

    Not sure of the answer to that one.

    Except of course that they have done exactly that.   MRSA being the most well known case in point.

  29. [Also, why don't germs evolve? According to your theory, they should be evolving to resist the drugs me make.]

    WOW! Does it hurt being that stupid? Germs are constantly evolving resistance to our drugs.  

  30. "Also, why don't germs evolve? According to your theory, they should be evolving to resist the drugs me make. "

    Fundies Never Heard Of MRSA Has He ?

    Theyre Evolving Constantly.....

  31. They WILL.

    As if you believe bugs can evolve within 10 years?

    Don't be a fool!

    If that was the case, I can prove evolution.

    You, on the other hand, have no scientific background, therefore you will suffer the same fate.  

    Just kidding...Touch the bug zapper!

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