Evolutionists: I want wings, so why aren't they forming?

Question

I thought with evolution when a species wants/needs something then it'll start to form. Like lizards that want their skin a certain colour will start becoming that colour (not to be confused with natural selection, which comes after).

So why haven't we human ever developed wings, whereas birds and insects have? If you say "we don't need them", then nothing really need wings either.

How can wings form without an intelligent designer to kick-start the process?

Answer 1

If you needed a pair of wings, they would have been issued to you in your seabag.  

Answer 2

Lizards changing skin colour is not evolution, its a defence mechanism. Do we need wings? no! we are doing pretty good as it is. Our brains could certainly evolve if your argument has anything to go by.

Answer 3

I think you're confused.  Wings are neither a neccessary nor a sufficient condition to smartassery.

Answer 4

Your error is in thinking that Evolution happens because a species wants or needs something.

Answer 5

Well...I see that you don't even have a third grade level understanding of science.

Evolution only favors survival....not what you want or think you need.

Answer 6

i asked a question last night, which asked why people argue against evolution without researching it first and getting the facts straight.

maybe you should go do that...

Answer 7

Oh but they have. Do you mean to tell me that you have never seen that monkey with wings in the Wizard Of Oz or Mighty Mouse that can fly and talk. Now that's good old  evolution for ya...

Answer 8

6Some have wandered away from these and turned to meaningless talk

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?boo...

Answer 9

By your logic everyone should have wings and be able to breathe underwater.

Do you know how silly you sound? Have you ever taken biology?

Answer 10

I just became stupider reading this question.

Answer 11

Are you purposefully misrepresenting what evolution actually is or is that actually what you believe it is?

Answer 12

Perhaps you have to understand what is a niche.

Answer 13

the question should be, does evolution have a purpose?

because the purpose of wings is to fly..

Answer 14

Evolution takes time ...maybe 10000 years or more ,also it occurs when you're environment is different .  

Answer 15

It doesn't surprise me that you think that evolution works by "wanting" something.  After all, Christians wanted an all-powerful father figure, so they invented God.  

Answer 16

I would start with asking for a brain, then start worrying about getting wings.

Answer 17

Your understanding of evolution is so flawed and incorrect that there is no hope of explaining it to you.  I'd suggest you read a basic book on biology and evolution.

Answer 18

First, why do people ask these sorts of questions on the R&S forum? You should ask on the science forum.

Second, I can tell by your question you have a profound misunderstanding of the way evolution works. In a nutshell those organisms which are best adapted to their environment will survive and procreate. Those that aren't will parish (or are selected against). This has nothing to do with what an organism wants. Selection is imposed from the outside.

Peace.

Answer 19

Because they know they can change color. If you knew you could fly, then you would. Without wings. It's all in your mind and what you truly believe you can do. Your mind is your intelligent designer. Well, it's intelligent if your spirit is allowed to lead.

Answer 20

Well, what you thought is so far removed from even a basuic understanding of evolutionary biology that there is really no reason to waste the space on this forum. Incidentally, the process of evolution does not conflict with an Intelligent Designer.  Truth cannot conflict with truth.

Answer 21

"I thought with evolution when a species wants/needs something then it'll start to form."

Well, there's your problem.

Evolution doesn't work that way. How about reading a book, or paying attention to your high school biology teacher?

Answer 22

It's not that we do or don't 'need' something.  

Evolution occurs via the process called natural selection as follows.  In this process, a group of individual organisms (bears, bees, humans, etc) all share most characteristics, but differ in some ways - for instance some dogs are black, some are brown, etc etc.  For one reason or another (this could be a drought, a famine, a plague) certain individuals in the population survive because of their particular differences, whereas those without the differences are killed or rendered otherwise unable to mate and pass on their genes.  The new standard genes in the gene pool, then, belong to what was once the 'different' individual.  Eventually, these genes become prevalent (as long as they remain more useful than the alternative to the animal).

This is not to say that this occurs because of desire to evolve, necessity, or anything of the sort.  Evolution is not random, but it is unplanned.  It boils down to luck of the draw for whether an individual produces offspring or even survives to mate.

Answer 23

Yep, vernon is right.

Wings aren't needed for sitting in a chair asking questions about something you don't understand, or make yourself not understand.

Answer 24

you're funny,

i give you that credit,

if you needed wings for survial after generations your offsrpings could have it,

or you might go extinct before that,

evolution takes millions of years

Answer 25

evolution does not work by wanting something.

a minor mutation has by chance some advantage that makes its possessor more likely to reproduce, so its genes are passed on.

eg. in long dry periods ground based tree grazing animals my die out if they are shorter, One with a mutation grows a slightly longer neck and survives because it can reach higher branches to eat

Answer 26

Need child, need. You're surviving well without wings, plus evolution doesn't keep every species alive, species try to survive by evolving, well not consciously.

Also, evolution spans over LONG durations, not maths lecture long, but million years long. It's an on-going process, not a "Daddy i want a pony" thing.

On the other hand if you so firmly believe in intelligent design and love your oh so mighty god so much, why don't you pray for some wings, ey?

Answer 27

You have no need for wings, you have need for hands, so you aren't getting them, sorry.

But maybe if your family continually jumps off cliffs everyday for generations, without a parachute or anything like that, they will sprout rudimentary wings in a few thousand years.

Answer 28

Yes, that's EXACTLY how evolution works.  Clearly you've studied it in depth.  But before you try to develop wings, might I suggest you develop a brain?

Answer 29

You truly are an idiot. I cannot even describe the level of stupidity that issues forth from you, like an ever-running tap of r****d. Evolution is the process by which an adaptation developed (often by mutation) is beneficial to the species. The adaptation make the species more likely to survive to reproduce. Flies have wings because the fly that developed them survived to reproduce and make more flies with wings. Humans don't need them because we have little trouble surviving to breed. Our wingless lives seem to succeed pretty well. A fly without wings is dead. Seeing as how I have COMPLETELY answered your question, which you will disregard, and most likely post another shockingly similarly phrased question, I would like to suggest YOU not be given the opportunity to breed. Need to preserve the gene pool.

Answer 30

You have hands instead.

Evolution is not about what you, personally, want.  It's about what a species as a whole finds beneficial.

Answer 31

Umm... Humans don't need wings. Never have, never will. Anyone stupid enough to jump off of a high place and expect wings to grow probably deserves to die.

Insects and birds do indeed need wings to survive. It's how they escape from predators and forage for food. As wings are useful to birds and insects, a person's strengths lie in their capability to think and use their hands and feet.

Also, evolution doesn't occur when someone simply wants or needs something. If that happened, we'd all be perfect creatures on this planet. A lizard's ability to change color is merely a necessary adaptation to the environment. It helps them survive.