Evolutionists are you harming mankind?

Question

In your desperate need to disprove the Creator science has gone from being a boon to mankind to being deficit.

We are spending billions of dollars (with a b) and millions of man hours trying to prove a theory and disprove the creator. We spent billions of dollars alone on a single project to send a probe to mars to dig for ice! While problems back here among the creation is being ignored.

If we invested as much time and resources in finding answers to famine, disease and other problems, we would have something to show for what has been science's best resources essentially flushed down the Darwin drain.

In the desperate attempt to disprove the Creator have you harmed man? How do we justify spending all these resources while people are dying from disease and starvation?

I await the rants among which I might even get an answer.

Answer 1

Gee, maybe you should tell that to good ol' George W. while he's spending $720 million a day to spread his Christian message of  'peace' in Iraq.

Answer 2

Yes

Answer 3

Who, exactly, is spending all this money trying to disprove a creator?  The people who provide the money know full well that no such being exists.

If religion is so concerned about the starving, why are religious organisations some of the richest organisations in the World?  Why don't they volunteer to pay taxes so that their millions can be directed to relieving human suffering? Perhaps you should give direct to famine relief charities instead of tithing your money to a church so that your pastor can drive around in a fancy car.

The search for water - and possibly life - on Mars is not an attempt to disprove creationism which not a single scientist with any credibility believes but is an attempt to discover because, like many things Man does, it is driven by the need to discover and know new things (a stance which religion always finds threatening because religion only thrives when ignorance prevails).

Do you honestly believe that if the space program was cancelled in its entirety we would somehow be able to solve the problems of famine and starvation? That somehow the cancellation of a space probe would feed someone in Africa?

The simple truth is that if that money wasn't spent on space exploration it would be used for arms, or manufacturing other technologies because that's where the expertise is.  Solving issues like starvation requires cross-government co-operation to a degree that has never been seen on this planet - not least because of differences in religion and ideologies. The truth is that many developed nations benefit from others being left in poverty through trade protection and cheap labour.

There is already more than enough money available to direct at starvation and famine; what is lacking is political and economic will.

And it is just conceivable that one day it will be possible to grow food on Mars which will help feed some of our starving millions.

EDIT:  and please don't display your ignorance by calling Evolution "just a theory; not fact" - it's just pathetic.  A Scientific Theory is a description or explanation of observed facts which explains all known facts and which predicts further facts. As such, it is the nearest thing to 100% total fact that any scientist will admit to. Gravity is also such a theory - if you don't "believe" in gravity try jumping out of a 10-storey window.

Answer 4

Interesting - never really thought about it.

I am a Christian that believes in evolution. I was not aware we were spending so much money trying to prove the theory. What's the point of that? How about reducing my taxes instead? Joking - yes, feed the poor and give people health insurance!

Answer 5

I have no desperate need to disprove anything, try again.

Have you any idea what evolutionary biology has done for mankind?

Answer 6

Well considering the numerous cures for diseases, I would say it has been worth it.. But then again, I am for curing people of diseases.  As well as creating vaccines for viruses.

Answer 7

Evolution has 150+ years of peer-review backing it up and it is the foundation of modern biology.  Just because people don't understand every fine detail does not mean god is real...  

Not to mention that science makes no claims about the supernatural- evolutionary biology has no intentions of proving or disproving a creator.  If a biologist tries to disprove the existence of a god, they will inevitably fail- things that don't exist don't leave evidence of non-existence.  With no evidence, it's doubtful a study could even really be done.

For the record- yes, like any other science, evolutionary science can be misused.  

Answer 8

How much money does your church spend on fighting famine, disease and other problems?

Answer 9

Evolution doesn't disprove religion.

Evolution is a fact. Accept it, or stop talking about it, because you won't win any logical debate.

Answer 10

***If we invested as much time and resources in finding answers to famine, disease and other problems, we would have something to show for what has been science's best resources essentially flushed down the Darwin drain***

It's not evolutionists that are roadblocking stem cell research.  It's creationists.

Answer 11

Science is not trying to disprove "the creator." It's trying to discover it.

Answer 12

Are you suggesting we should live in the dark ages?

I agree, we have some pretty serious problems. I think problem number one:

A president who starts wars with religious subtext, and has openly stated "I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."

No war in Iraq? Billions of extra dollars to help out back home.

Answer 13

It is what they expect to find in the ice that matters (though simply the knowledge that there is water on Mars would be of significant importance)... and the purpose is not to prove you wrong, It's to advance our knowledge of the Universe.

Religions spend how many billions (with a b) on Churches (or equivalent religious structures) ? Why not spend that time and the resources "in finding answers to famine, disease and other problems." How do you justify that while people are dying from disease and starvation ?

The "Theory" of Evolution as you mention refers to "Scientific Theory" ie. based on FACTs unlike Religion.

Answer 14

Hahahaaha.

Kind of like if we invested your fundie idiot President's war money into famine and disease we'd be a lot better off as well.

keep telling yourself that it's all the Evil-lutionists' fault if it makes you feel better about the obvious illogic and untruth of your death cult.

Answer 15

You make very good points, all that I would add to it is this, even if they found ice, all that would mean is that there is water there.

Water and life are not the same.

So the money is spent, no life is found, and more life here has died due to lack.

Answer 16

Evolution revolution.

Deist with a B.A. Degree in Anthropology (Archaeology)

Evolution is a scientific theory and a fact.

Since I believe in a God, I pretty much discredited your argument. I believe the consciousness of the universe is God. I BELIEVE God could have created life or the big Bang, but science MUST deal with the evidence. I keep my personal beliefs away from science.

Edit:

"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate the evidence. Faith is belief in spite of,even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence."

Richard Dawkins

And yes, I'm a Deist quoting an Atheist!

Answer 17

I'm pretty sure we've got some people working on famine, disease, etc.

How are you using your money?

There are many fields of scientific study.  I don't think anyone is specifically trying to disprove a creator, they are just looking for truths.  

Answer 18

Nice!  

Trying to prove something that never happened is a waste of money, time, and resources.  

They will never stop as they are desperate to disprove the existence of God.  

It is also misleading potential Christians away from God by teaching the evolution of man as a fact which is also leading them away from eternal life.

Answer 19

Disproving a creator is not the driving force, merely a side effect.  Are you mad that some of those billions were spent curing polio?  Was it a curse from god?  Why are you really upset?

Answer 20

Evolution doesn't disprove a creator.

NASA and JPL aren't trying to disprove a creator by going to Mars.

Science doesn't concern itself with religion.

I wish the opposite were true.

Answer 21

I am not a creationist, nor am I a darwinist.  I do believe in evolution, but not darwin's type of evolution.  I believe that God did create everything, but He did so, slowly.  This world is much older than the 6,000 yrs of family history that is recorded in the bible, and God's time is not like ours, for God is outside of time, and time is an invention of mankind.  All of us are still evolving, and so are the animals and insects.  God didn't create us so that we'd drop dead if things changed, hence the ability to adapt and change to better meet the changes in the world itself.

Answer 22

i agree 100% that so true all of it  

Answer 23

I think more than a trillion dollars will be spent on this war started by christian zealots...

your theory is therefore wrong...

more money is spent on war than helping those you mentioned...

Answer 24

No religion is harming mankind, look at Hitler he was catholic, and the religious wars going on in the middle east. That were spending billions of dollars on to stop.

Religion makes us dumb and hurts mankind.

Answer 25

No. There are answers that man needs to know...and evolution is a fact and theory....

Answer 26

Nice conspiracy theory.  Your tinfoil is showing.

Science is not trying to disprove your religion.  It simply did so by default.

Your religion is primitive science.  It's a failed hypothesis, and science has discarded it, along with all the rest.

Don't blame us for the fact that your god isn't real.  

The better question for you to ask is, why are you Christian nutters wasting millions of dollars on things like the "Creationist Museum", in a desperate attempt to make your god seem plausible?  What benefit does that pseudoscience have?  Is it feeding the hungry?  Is it curing disease?  Guess what, evolutionary theory has done both, and continues to do so.

Answer 27

We are spending zero dollars trying to prove evolution. OUtside the rantings of the religious extreme - and more specifically, among practising scientists - it is considered proven beyond all doubt.

What we are doing is using it, and the things that flow from it through research into its mechanisms, to cure diseases, improve farming yields, better animal welfare and the like.

So far from hurting, the next disease you get may depend on it for a cure.

Religion, however, continues to kill and harm. A man in my home town in the UK was today convicted of child abuse for forcing his son to take part in a self flagellation religious ritual that left him in hospital. There is real harm.

Answer 28

Was Columbus's voyage to the New World also a waste of money?  You have to do research without a guarantee of tangible benefits, otherwise nothing important would ever get done.  Electricity was thought to be a complete waste of time when people were first researching it.  Imagine life today without it.

Answer 29

We harm mankind by developing new treatments to diseases.

"If we invested as much time and resources in finding answers to famine, disease and other problems"

God you are stupid.  No pun intended.  So please elaborate for me what creation science does to solve any of the above.  Please, just one contribution creation science has made...

"In your desperate need to disprove the Creator"

Evolution doesn't disprove anything.... it simply states the fact that random mutations combined with selective forces lead to organisms better adapting to their environment.  A fact, no disproving done at all.

Answer 30

Why should produce a rant when you are so good at it?

To answer your question:

Because it has shown to be a good return on investment.

TFTTP

Answer 31

And if Billy Graham worked for $30,000 a year and donated the rest of his salary to cancer research they might have a cure by now.

And evolution-based research has led to countless vaccines and such, so you are way off base here.  

As much as you may like to pretend it, nobody is trying to disprove God.  As Kjelstad said, it's merely a side effect of finding out more about the universe around us.

Perhaps instead of being so bold as to assume that you know God, you might be willing to mature with the rest of mankind and redefine what a god might be.