Extended: Need help understanding how Dukedoms,Earldoms work? part 2 lol?

Question

this is in relation to a question i previously asked "Need help understanding how Dukedoms,Earldoms work?" but anyone feel free to reply! Once a Duke becomes the monarch do they still hold the title Duke ? if not who does it go to if they have no children ? What was so great about York that the monarchs 2nd son/daughter was given the title "Duke of York" ? back in medieval times when the 2nd son/daughter of the monarch was made Duke of York, was it just a traditional role back then or did they acttualy have a duty to do in York.

and off topic but in the subject, who collected the taxes back then ? lol

Answer 1

The title Duke of York is a title of nobility in the British peerage. Since the 15th century, it has, when granted, been usually given to the second son of the British monarch. Since the second creation (1474), none of the holders of the title have ever transmitted it: they either died without male heirs or became King themselves.

Once the royal duke is "King", he will no longer carry the title of "Duke of York." The title will become extinct until the monarch recreate the title for his second son, if he had one. The title "Duke of York" can only be inherited from father to son (never to daughters). If the Duke died without any male heirs to inherit, it will become extincted. It DOES NOT go to his nearest male relative for example a nephew.

Other peerage titles can be inherited by other male members of the family, however, specific royal titles created for sons of monarch, does not. It will be reversed back to the Crown, until it is recreated again for another royal member. For example, the title "Duke of Windsor" specially created for King Edward VIII is currently extincted since he had no children.

Note: The current Duke of York is The Prince Andrew, second son of Queen Elizabeth II. Andrew currently has no male heirs; thus, the most likely candidate for the next creation is Prince Henry of Wales, being the second son of Charles, Prince of Wales.

Answer 2

The English monarch is always given the title "Duke of Lancaster" - even the Queen, though you would expect her to be a duchess, is the Duke of Lancaster.

A Duke cannot be elevated to the monarchy just purely because he is a duke.

If someone with another Dukedom becomes monarch (eg Prince Andrew, Duke of York) - he would become HM King Andrew, Duke of Lancaster and York.

Answer 3

Dukes didn't often become kings, but there are the occasional countries that are Grand Duchies, like Luxembourg.  And the ruler there is a Grand Duke...If a Duke became King it would be because both his father and older brother had both died, and he was still next in line, like, say James II of Britain.  He was the brother of Charles II.  Their father was Charles I.  Charles II died with no legitimate children (the number of known illegitimate children is almost uncountable, but they were, well illegitimate) so James II became king.  I'm pretty sure, as second son of Charles I, he was a Duke.

If the Duke who has become king does not have any children, well, James II, did, and they then went to the Netherlands, and took William and Mary as the next Monarchs.  A lot depends on just where the line of succession goes.

I don't know why York is so important.  Someone else is going to have to come up with that one for you.

As for the last question: Tax collectors collected the taxes.  Honestly.  I'm pretty sure that's all there is to it.  There were people whose job it was to go around the country and collect the taxes and deliver them to the kings and lords.