Feminism and fatherhood?

Question

Are they compatible? I found this interesting blog. Thoughts please?

http://feminist4fathers.blogspot.com/

Answer 1

Edit-The below is not meant for you Jammygal.  Thank you Princess for your remarks-you are fair & right, I need to get over this.  I am a survivor and an equalist.  

I changed the word feminist to misandrist.  I don't understand why feminists can't be more sensitive to fathers who have been abused by the system.  It does happen.  Here's my answer:

Never.  I would rather die fighting misandrists to the death.  The link you provided sells father's day stuff.  We are kicked out of the family, treated like 2nd class citizens, raped in court, raped by many exwifes who claim false domestic violence (to punish us as we can't see the kid/s again till court is over-usually 2-3 months)  and raped by society (it is not socially accepted for men to vent about what happened.)

You can't compare Father's Day to some mug selling website.  Imagine how women would feel if you did that about Mother's Day? And it's all bs propaganda.  What about the fathers who can't see their children because of a vindictive ex-wife

(and you see that all the time in Men's Divorce Groups and on Yahoo Men's Rights Groups.)

My son is 12.  The only Father's Day I spent with him was when he was 2 1/2 and younger.  I have missed most of the major holidays with him including his birthday, Halloween, etc, etc.  

He lives thousands of miles away.  No one addresses fathers who want to be in their children's lives.  A lot of fathers are six feet under; having died going thru divorce.  Like my brother, Anthony D, others & almost myself.  No body talks about that either.  

Misandrists have and do commit gendercide.  There can be no peace/compatibility with murderers.  It's Jewish law, kill the father, you kill the next generation.  It's a crime what is happening.

Answer 2

I can't see the blog but in reference to tiger- it's right that you should elect to call the women who are like your ex 'misandrist' and not feminist...

you got the short end of the stick, obviously. Most women aren't that hateful and cruel. I feel for you.

Best wishes.

Answer 3

Unfortunately, Tiger's rant is way too common of an experience that many men face upon divorce in our society. We currently have a form of institutionalized sexism that discriminates against men and especially fatherhood.  The issue isn't so much about feminists hating men as about feminists influencing society and our laws such that fatherhood has become under-valued , under-apperciated, and unsupported. As a matter of fact, I believe society has in some ways become actually hostile against fathers. So to answer your question - No, I don't think (real) feminism is compatible with fatherhood. Real feminism, when one understands it, is not about "equality," though many moderates claim it to be. Real feminism is about creating a matriarchal society, when women rule superior over men. This can never be compatible with supporting fatherhood.

Answer 4

Why would we hate fathers when we've had our own children with living, breathing men? People act as if feminists hate the institution of fatherhood when we really hate the men who won't take it seriously.

Answer 5

There seem to be two primary views on fatherhood in feminism. The view that men should have no parental rights, and that they are inferior parents, and the view that men should take care of the children so that women can pursue their careers unimpeded.

Answer 6

The problem or incompatibility is not between feminists and fatherhood but between the paradigms of women as equals and male self-serving expectations.  Catholicism, the viewpoint of the blogger, is misoynistic and views women as sub-human.  The Catholic Church was still debating if women even had souls just a couple of centuries ago, not to mention the up to 50 million women of "independent mind" the Church slaughtered during the Malleus Mallificarum.  And, the Church has viciously opposed birth control and a woman's right to make decisions about her own body, including even preaching that a woman has no right to say no to s*x in marriage. That's one sick puppy of a paradigm, not worthy of any respect whatsoever.

The entire anti-woman movement related to fatherhood revolves around a mealy-mouthed rage that goes basically like this:  We will accept accountability for our children and support our children only if women agree to meet our self-serving expectations, only if women let us control them and their bodies, only if women get an abortion when we tell them to, only if women agree not to get an abortion when we tell them not to, only if they obey us and serve us, only if they are uneducated domestics, only if the courts award us with custody after we dump their mothers in divorce, only if we have control over how our child-support money is spent if the court awards custody to the mother, only if we are allowed to rape our wives without legal interference as we allowed to prior to feminist interefence, only if we are allowed to lie on the stand about paternity as we've traditionally done before DNA testing, only if we are allowed to enjoy child pornography / prostitution / cyber p**n and s*x slavery without feminist "political correct" interference, only if women are SAHMs, only if women wear burkas are otherwise comply with our social sexual fetish expectations of femininity (fat women are out and are worthless), only if we get what WE want, which is all so weirdo because the majority of deadbeat parents are "fathers", the majority of men don't ask for or want custody in divorce, the majority of men want to abort unwanted pregnancies,  a major reason for marital problems is paternal lack of help raising children, and the majority of men as a voting block vote against every single child supportive measure such a health care / school funding / crime reduction bills / quality childcare / child nutritional programs.

Answer 7

Didn't read it all, but most of it sounds like basic common sense and the sort of normal, everyday arrangements most people who aren't obsessive and out of control make as a matter of course.

One couple I know, on Mother's Day the kids go to HIS Mum's place, because she is a widowed elderly lady who lives alone and would otherwise have no visitors.

Of course the Mum would like to have the kids with her, but their grandmother loves them and they her.

On Father's Day, the kids spend the day with their Dad and his Mum.

People who actually care about their children, and not just scoring points off each other when it's too d@mn late, do this kind of stuff without thinking it's a big deal.

Sadly, for those types who think this IS a big deal, it's probably going to be hard to make much headway.

Cheers :-)

Answer 8

Tiger is typical of someone who's unfortauntely gone out with a ***** and blames. It's only anti fems that think feminists hate men - fathers and men are just as important as mothers.