Feminists, in you story books, does "the patriarchy"?

Question

do anything right or good OR are men all just depicted as big meanies who are incapable of goodness?

Answer 1

No, feminists see 'the patriarchy' as being the big, scary boogey monster

Answer 2

Patriarchy, as understood in feminism, is the ideal that gender relations be structured on a principle of male responsibility and authority, corresponding to female protection and submission — sometimes called complementarianism.

Men are male humans. Those are not one and the same. One is a system, the other is people that can either support or change a system.

There are even Male Feminist, because Feminism believes in equality, not dominance.

If you ever want a serious answer about feminism ask a serious question. If you want to be an insecure kid, take it out on something else.

Answer 3

"The patriarchy" is a noun.

"Patriarchal" is an adjective.

I know of no entity that is "the patriarchy."

I know of much damage caused by patriarchal societies.

Answer 4

We all know that 'the patriarchy' is just a figment in feminist theorists' minds. It is a conspiracy theory which makes them happy so don't rock their boat.

It is not even a real word!

In earlier times each village had its patriarch and its matriarch, they were the elders or leading villagers, and it is from this fact that the early feminist pseudo-intellectuals derived their notions.

But if the patriarchy really existed it would surely be working in association with the Stepford Men's Association? (Meetings every Tuesday evening at 7 o'clock.)

Answer 5

You knew the answer (no) before you asked the question.

You've just got nothing else to do at the moment.  (Come to think of it, neither do I.)

@Desdamona:  I personally am a "Second Stage" gal, althoug I did read her first in college a century ago.

Answer 6

I think today's feminists labour under many delusions about men.  The imagine, for insance, that men want to prevent women from working, whereas as far as I can make out, most men are delighted to have wives who work, it absolves them from the responsibility of providing for their families.  They're quite happy with the situation.  The feminist belief that men are all engaged in a gigantic conspiracy to stop women achieveing anything is entirely without foundation.

As for the person who inquired about Betty Friedan, I can't recall any mention of partiarchy in Friedan's book.  Her book is mostly a concentrated attack on stay-at-home wives, whom she blamed for all the ills of modern society: divorce, homosexuality, juvenile delinquency, battered children, and women's excessive interest in s*x.  We're to blame for all those things, according to her.

Far from being against the dominance of men, Friedan seems to me to buy into an entirely male-centred view of the universe, that work is all that matters, and that home and children are unimportant and unworthy of a woman's attention.  We should all be out having careers (and it must be a career, a mere job, whether you are a man or a woman, is as unworthy as being a housewife).  

Housework, Ms Friedan tells us in her book, only takes an hour or so, so a woman should have plenty of time to knock it off AND be a bank manager or a brain surgeon or something as well.  I dunno whatever happened to hosuework since the sixties, Friedan said it only took an hour, yet over on the marriage and divorce section on here, women never stop going on about how exhaustint it is and how long it takes them and how they don't get any help etc.  Whatever happend to housework between the sixties and now to make it so much more difficult?

Answer 7

I'm a feminist.

I'm a man.

If I hated myself, that would be pointless.

I would invite you to consider not equating men with the patriarchy. Too simplified of a perspective for a complex issue.

Answer 8

Neither. It just denies sovereignty to 50% of the populatioon.

Answer 9

Who says there are any men in our story books?

Answer 10

Feminists do not hate men.  They simply want equal pay for equal work, which still eludes women in this country.

Every FAMILY has a matriach and a patriach, how you made this connection, I do not know, but there is none.

Answer 11

In the story book Patriarchy is a fire breathing dragon that eats virgin maidens.

Answer 12

I don't mind well thought out opinions, but there is no room for stupidity here. The pay gap between men and women is negligible. The evidence today explains any minor pay gap that exist. Desdamona, you need to do your homework.

June O'Neill, an economist at Baruch College and former director of the Congressional Budget Office, has uncovered something that debunks the discrimination thesis. Take out the effects of marriage and child-rearing, and the difference between the genders suddenly vanishes. "For men and women who never marry and never have children, there is no earnings gap," she said in an interview.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/119920.h...

http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh061107-st...

Answer 13

Some men are good and others are bad. I'm seriously considering putting you on the bad list.

Answer 14

The answer depends on which feminist answers your question.

Feminists are not a monolithic group. We don't all think the same way, and some of us have no desire to badmouth men. Men are our spouses, our fathers, our brothers and our sons.

Some feminists may hate men, but that's their own personal thing. You really cannot equate "feminist" with "man-hater." That would be inaccurate.

Des, I think you mean "The Feminine Mystique." I don't know how widely Friedan is read these days.

Answer 15

One: The patriarchy is not a world-spanning evil conspiracy. It's more of a bad habit most of us have.

Two: No, men are not big meanies. Many of them are really great. It's just that they tend to get treated better.