Food for thought: do today's young men expect to have their cake, and to eat it too? Who cleans up afterwards?

Question

Why do some men wish to control women's uteruses but refuse to assume control over the vacuum cleaner and the toilet brush? Why would women take such persons seriously? It all sounds rather hypocritical:

'Professor Bulbeck said "While performing housework and childcare was seen as nothing short of emasculation for many of the young men in my study, this does not prevent them from claiming their rights in relation to abortion decisions,"

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/118164.php

Answer 1

Why do the first posters think women aren't working, paying the bills and bringin' home the bacon?

I certainly am.

Men don't get to choose what happens to us- they had the priviledge for a long time, it's done now.

Answer 2

My guy likes to say he never helps me with housework. And looking at it his way, he doesn't help me. We share it, and if I have had a hard day, he may do it all and never a complaint. He says, and I agree, that if you say you are helping, it is saying you think it is really woman's work. Neat, huh? I sometimes have to go out of the way and do extra things just to stay even with him. I get regular foot massages since I have bad feet, even if he is exhausted. But most members of the Baha'i Faith are different in a lot of positive ways. Men and women, or husband and wife are the two wings of a bird is the way he puts it.

Oh, I forget to mention something. I have NEVER had to put the seat down or clean it. You can sometimes hear it going back down after he is done. And if I am sick, he will go in and clean it before I even get a chance to.

If a human is created at the moment of conception, what does that say about abortion? I cannot decide for you, but I could not unless there was a grave medical necessity.

Answer 3

Why do some women wish to control men's LIVES but refuse to assume control over the snow shovel, the lawn mower, the rake, the ladder, the screwdriver, the circular saw, the car jack, etc?

Answer 4

Yes, some of them probably do, though I'm not entirely getting the connection between abortion and housework.

Interesting that the Chinese were the most in favour of abortion being a woman's choice.

As for housework being 'emasculating', I simply couldn't take any man seriously who believed this. Looking after yourself and your home is adult behaviour - finding excuses for not doing so is the behaviour of a child.  

Answer 5

I agree that men need to help more around the house.  I think men should change more than women change in being more masculine or feminist.  Women were perfect back in the 1950's; it was the men who weren't helping enough.

As for child birth, I personally think we should be like ancient Sparta.  We should incorporate some kind of population control or eugenics.  Parents would love a fitter child (whatever is defined by "fit" per individual basis) more than a less fit child.  A mother would be less inclined to emotionally abuse, and a father would be inclined to be attentive in being a good father.  Ultimately, when it comes to human beings, you want those who contribute and add to the system instead of take away from the system without contributing or adding something to it.  For those who take away from the system or society's resources, who pays for it?...we, the taxpayers, do...of course.  The more unfits we have, the higher our taxes get...ultimately, the less happy we become...then other things in our lives suffer...and it sometimes affects our relationships with family and friends.

Answer 6

I don't personally see that abortion and housework quite come into the same category.  I would personally hope that if a man and a woman were in a committed relationship together, they would have some kind of joint consensus about whether or not they were going to have a child.  This is one of those issues that I think should have been thrashed out before they got in too deep, likewise the housework issue.

The feminist movement originally postulated that housework was so easy in the modern world that it could be whisked through in an hour or so, and so men wouldn't need to help with it.  That's what Betty Friedan said in 'The Feminine Mystique' anyway.  However, it seems that modern women are having more trouble working and doing all the housework as well, so evidently it isn't such a doddle as Ms Friedan fondly imagined.

If it is too much for today's young women to do all the housework while working full-time, then they need to either quit their jobs so they can concentrate on the housework, or do less housework, and just let the non-essential stuff go, or else marry men who are domesticated (some are, despite what this article claims).  There's no point in women wearing themselves out doing everything if it is too much for them.

And there's no point in obsessing over how many bacteria there are in the loo etc. We need to be exposed to some bacteria, that is how we build up immunity to them, you can't eliminate every single one from everyone's lives.

And personally, I think if you are cooking three meals a day that is far too much.  The children and I generally just have toast or cereal for breakfast, and my husband normally only wants a cup of tea.  For lunch we just have a sandwich or something.  I just do one cooked meal, in the evening.

For goodness sake stop making a martyr of yourself to housework.  Ligthen up.  It's not the end of the world if you don't have a totally immaculate bacteria-free house.

Answer 7

What controlling a$$#0!3$! Uhhh! It should be equal with the housework and money but NOBODY will ever have a valid say of what I do with my body and uterus!

Answer 8

do you personally know anyone like this or are you just trying to feed a growing resentment by trying to drape a huge stereotype over my gender.

I dont want anyone to have abortion rights. You make the baby, i believe you should be responsible for it, instead of getting a free pass at any point.

By the way, before you get all huffy about men not doing housework, maybe you should go out and work 40-50 hours a week to pay for mortgage, utilities, food, internet, cable, furniture, electricity ETC.

When you start doing that i'll start doing some household chores.

Answer 9

Take comfort in the fact that the sub boys who marry feminists expect nothing from marriage, from women, or from life itself.