For those of you who feel that adoption is a miracle, how do you feel about this?

Question

I am trying to understand those who say that God sanctions adoption because He/She wouldn't make a mistake of giving a child to the wrong parent.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/07/30/kids.abused.ap/?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail

Answer 1

Abuse happens.  It is tragic.  Some people should NOT be parents biological or not.

Answer 2

I'm very confused what does a cheap silk knock-off or a drug to lower cholesterol have to do with evil?  

Why does God get credit for good things, but not bad things?  Either God causes good AND bad, or God causes neither.  If God is responsible for the good, God is responsible for the bad.  

And one final parting shot...

God is Love.

Love is Blind.

Ray Charles is Blind.

Therefore, Ray Charles is God.

Answer 3

Thats a rare thing. Thats nothing to do with the idea of adoption being BAD. It's to do with a bad adoption agency.

Answer 4

oh, but adoption is "SO GREAT!!!"

Answer 5

God does sanction adoption, but not when adoption is bad.  Every good thing can be bad if handled wrong- don't blame God or adoption on a horrible story like this-  God did not make a mistake here, we live in a world that most people don't want to do the will of God, so sometimes bad things like this happen. However, I can tell you God weeps over these things.  When adoption is done the way that GOD SANCTIONS IT, then it can be a miracle. Please don't blame God for the sins of man.

EDIT- it makes me cry that those adoptive parents could be abusive- where in my answer do I sanction that- GOD DOES NOT SANCTION THE ABUSE-  

I have one more thing to say- this could happen in a biological home as well- so adoption is not the issue really

Answer 6

Who said adoption is a "miracle"? I see most people here saying that adoption can be good & it can be bad. Adoption is not a one sided issue. I don't think adoption is a "miracle", but I think for the APs that are able to have children through adoption consider their children "miracles".

Answer 7

Uggghh.  Another tragedy.  Abusers should not have children in their care.  Although we have no control in choosing the people to whom a child is born, we do have control in choosing the people with whom a child is placed when an adoption occurs.  

Sadly, there are children who are abused and killed at the hands of their parents -- even their adoptive parents.  

A lot of people make statements like, "Adoption saves children."  Adoption does nothing more than place a child into a new family.  That is what adoption does.  

What saves children from abuse is keeping them from abusers.  If a child has been removed from the care of abusers, but hasn't been adopted, has this child not been saved from the abuse?  Of course s/he has!  It's the removal from the care of abusers that saves a child from abuse, not adoption.  The adoption puts a child into a family other than his/her previous family.  It's a separate issue and event.

ETA:

I wish this were rare.  I have a list of links to newspaper articles about children who have been killed by their adoptive parents.  Those running the institution of adoption need to do a better job of protecting these children.

Funny though, when it's the bios that abuse/kill, no one tries to defend  ANYTHING about it -- and rightfully so.

If it's all about the best interests of the child, which it should be, then why are some people unwilling to fully accept the reality of abuse when it occurs in adoption?  They ought to be more interested in protecting children than in protecting an institution.

Answer 8

I think this story is a fine example of Satin and has more to do with Greed and Money then adoption and children...

Had it not been for the ability to get the Money this woman would have had a job working at the little legue and ripping off all their money--or she would have had a job taking care of seniors and stealing their Social Security ....

I find this situation to be more about the Money then about a child or the abuse of the child (while that is horrble and I am not trying to even imply otherwise.)

This story isn't about God as this adoptive parent wasn't motivated by God she was motivated by the Root of All Evil Statin and Money...

Answer 9

This is a horrible example, but if the woman had given birth to the kids, she'd have probably been just as bad to them.

Overall, adopted kids fare better in school, have lower crime rates than nat. born kids, and achieve higher levels of education.  

This is a good reason why we all ought to get to know our neighbors, and in the instance that abuse is taking place, that we ought to call the authorities.   I know this couldn't happen around my neighborhood, because everyone checks on each other, and we know each other.  (We also haven't had a theft in years here).  Adoption can be a wonderful thing for many kids, and most often, in a lot of cases, it beats the care they'd get with natural parents.  I feel sorry for those who got a raw deal with adoptive parents, however, even more kids get a raw deal with natural parents.

Answer 10

There are people who shouldn't be parents..  some can have their own children, and would just abuse them.. what should be done if they DO get pregnant??

Some shouldn't be parents, and they are infirtile anyway, and they should not be allowed to adopt..

adoption doesn't cause abuse.. the fact is there are people who abuse children.. whether their biologically theirs or not..

I can give you just as many stories of abuse and even death in biological families..

for some good, loving people who cannot have their own people.. adoption IS a miracle.. for THEM.. in giving them the family they always dreamed of.. and for some children who ARE taken from abusive biological parents and placed with these good, loving people, adoption is also a miracle and life-saving..

Raised by a great biological mother.. always felt lucky.. Knew friends who were abused.. BY THEIR BIOLOGICAL FAMILIES.. always felt lucky... adoption vs biological has nothing to do with abuse..

CARNIE!! I know they hate you but BOY did you say exactly what I'm trying to say, only more cut and dry.. I have a problem with being too "wordy" and going round adn round trying to find the right words LOL...

Answer 11

I do not believe all adoptions are miracles, however, I do believe based on my son's life before and after he was born, his adoption was a miracle.  His bio-grandparents also feel the same as they are very vocal to people about their feelings on this.  

I believe that some parents abuse children - regardless of whether they are adoptive or biological.  When it happens it is a tragedy - again regardless of how the family was formed.  Children should not be abused!

I do not believe that God sanctions all adoptions.  In situations where coercion or kidnapping occur, God does not support that.  However, I do believe that in some cases (such as our son's), God does support adoption.  

As a sidenote, I know that this question was asked in response to the question that I asked.  I tried to email you but your email was private.  I just want to clarify that my position on God was not what was being asked.  It was for those who feel that children are only born to people who are meant to parent the child.  I am trying to understand that belief.  I've heard most people who may not support adoption admit that they do support adoption in cases of abuse (which I respect).  However, to hear someone say that children are only born to people who are meant to parent them (and they were the ones who referred to God in their answer), I'm trying to better understand that when it comes to situations of abuse or neglect.  Hope that helps clear the air about my question.

Answer 12

I will say the same thing that I said for the other question (the pro adoption one) is that God really has nothing to do with adoption.  I don' t see my children as meaning to come to me.  They were abused and neglected at the first home (birth home) so how can I even fathom that that was God's intent.  

Adoption is just the way we are making my family.  We are choosing to make our family this way because:

A)  We want to be parents and yes we are infertile

B)  The children we are adopting have been through a lot and are in need of parents who don't hurt them.

I don't think God intended or not intended for this to occur.  Just as I feel God doesn't intend for every pregant person to get pregnant, thus again my children.  I am sure it was not God's plan to allow this woman to have three children, then neglect them and have them go up for adoption.

I just don't buy the argument.  But what God can help with  (or deity of your choice) is the healing portion of the children, and helping them feel safe and loved.

Answer 13

The same as how natural parents have children for profit and then abuse them......isn't that why there is foster care?

Case in point:

Precious Doe....aka Erica Michelle Maria Green, age three

Precious Doe was a pseudonym assigned to an unidentified female corpse (presumed to be 3 to 4 years of age) discovered on April 28, 2001, in Kansas City, Missouri. The girl had been murdered and decapitated. The body was naked and the head was wrapped in a trash bag and dumped nearby. The brutality of the crime, and the fact that the child went unidentified for a long period, sparked national interest.  In an effort to identify the girl, police released sketches, computerized likenesses, and at least two busts depicting the victim. The case was featured on the TV program America's Most Wanted several times.

On May 5, 2005, the body was identified as Erica Michelle Maria Green, age three, and her mother and step-father were charged with her murder and extradited from Oklahoma to face charges in Missouri. The eight other children of Erica's mother were taken into state custody or placed with relatives. On December 03, 2005, prosecutors announced that they would seek the death penalty against Erica's father, Harrell Johnson.

Police have said that after Erica died, Harrell Johnson said he used hedge clippers to sever her head. Johnson's cousin, Lawanda Driskell, said that Erica's mother helped Harrell dispose of the body by taking Erica from the house as if sleeping in a stroller and telling Driskell she had given Erica to the woman who had raised her.

Answer 14

people must remember that this doesnt happen to every1. i hav 2 cousins whom was adopted because their parents died and the remaining family could not afford to keep them alive would it be fair to leave the child to starve to death that way?? what was gods plan in that cercumstance??? were the two boys ment to die??? i dont think so i think god intended for the boys to be bought into our family with the love and caring they get. c my uncle got mumps and it made him unable to hav babies that is y they addopted.

Answer 15

For every adopted child that gets abused, you can find 100+  biological parents who abuse their kids.  Does that mean that ALL biological parents are abusers?  NO, it doesn't.  Wouldn't it be silly to say that NO ONE should have children because some adoptive parents and some biological parents abuse their children?

In the past 6 months or so THREE very young children were murdered in 3 different cases in Galveston.  None of these children were adopted yet they were abused and murdered.

God does not make mistakes.  God blesses us with children. People do bad things sometimes--they are not following God's will for their lives when they do so.  Satan has a power over us also.  I try to do what I think is God's will for my life and he blesses me daily.  God blessed me with a child.  I did not abuse her.  I don't blame you when parents abuse their biological children.  Why do you blame ALL adoptive parents and GOD when an adoptive parent abuses their child.  

YOU have a choice who your Master will be.  Will it be God or satan?  The difference is heaven or h**l.  I choose heaven.  What do you choose?  Your question makes me sad for you.

Answer 16

The article is very disturbing  sad and terrible.  Sadly there are foster parents and adoptive parents who adopt or foster simple to get state money.  As Cruzgirl said there are people who should not be parent’s period adoptive or biological.  This woman will one day face the wrath of God. Obviously God is going to be upset and cry if a child is placed with a abusing adoptive family, however he will have the same reaction if a child is with their biological family and also abused.

I do not hold the abuse of an adopted child any higher then the abuse of a biological child, both are terrible and should not happen.

Answer 17

I think that abuse happens with both natural and adoptive parents.  we could dig through the newspapers and find horrible situations on both sides.  but of course, the anti-adoption establishment will say that adoptive parents are far more likely to abuse (but i have yet to see stats even though i've asked at least 3 times when this horrible statement was made) as natural parents.  but i'd bet the farm that the kids in foster care are there as a result of abuse and neglect from their birthparents.

is this really that difficult to understand?  that some people are horrible, adoptive or birth?  or is this just stirring the pot some more instead of asking a real question to get some real answers?