For those who believe Jews and Christians and other monotheists are "Kaffirs"?

Question

How do you explain these two verses?

2:62 - Those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

5:69 - Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Sabaeans, and Christians - Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

Answer 1

So finally you reported my Answer!!!

i agree with Brother D@!Z & Happily happy answers!!

Edit, so you called me a kaffir because i just didn't agree with you!! what about Jews and Christians who don't believe in Qur'an, So compare to me as A kaffir, aren't they Kaffirs?

Answer 2

Jews, Christians and Sabaeans were believers because they did not rejetced Prophet Mohammed PBUH. But After the emergence of Prophet Mohammed PBUH, if they remained jews, christians and sabaeans they have rejected Prophet and thus have become kafir.

Mind you the verses are in past tense.

Answer 3

A Kaffir is someone who does not believe - so in the case of Islam, some one who does not believe in that faith.

Answer 4

I think Kaffir means different things to different people.  My girlfriend is from South Africa and refers to black people as kaffirs.

Answer 5

Will Muslims and non-Muslims be treated equally in punishment?  Also, how long will the Disbelievers stay in h**l?

Well, it appears from all of the above Noble Verses that Allah Almighty Will punish everyone for the bad deeds that they committed.  He Will forgive certain bad deeds, but in general, everyone will receive a punishment.

It also appears that Muslims, no matter how bad they were, will win Paradise as their Ultimate Reward after they receive their punishment.

As for the Disbelievers, beside from the punishment of their bad deeds that they committed in life, it seems that Allah Almighty Will give them extra punishment for disbelieving in Him or in Joining partners with Him, such as Paganism and Trinity; "They do blaspheme who say:  'Allah is Christ the son of Mary.'   But said Christ: 'O Children of Israel!  Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.'  Whoever joins other gods with Allah - Allah will forbid him the Garden, and the Fire will be his abode.  There will for the wrongdoers be no one to help.  (The Holy Quran, 5:72)"

Frankly, I do not know how long this punishment will last.  Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran Said that it will last for Eternity and that He will Forget about the Disbelievers in h**l; "Taste ye then - for ye forgot the meeting of this Day of yours.  And We too will Forget you - taste ye the penalty of Eternity for your (evil) deeds!  (The Noble Quran, 32,14)"

But since He, the Almighty, defined Himself as the Only One Who Has no beginning and no end, then the definition of "Eternity" or "Forever" might be different for Him:

"He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Hidden:   and He has full knowledge of all things.  (The Noble Quran, 57:3)"

"And verily unto Us (belong) the end and the beginning.   (The Noble Quran, 92:13)"

"But it is to Allah that the end and the beginning (of all things) belong.  (The Noble Quran, 53:25)"

You see, eternity for us is limited to amount of time we exist on earth.  When I for instance say "I will continue to breath for eternity or forever", then all I am really saying is "I will always breath for as long as I live."

So in reality, "Eternity" and "Forever" have ends.  They don't go on and on without an end.  So when Allah Almighty Says that He will punish the Disbelievers for eternity, then He might be referring to our eternity, since as I said, only Him, the Almighty, has no end.

But I honestly don't know the answer.  No one does.  Even in Christianity and Judaism, the length of time of the punishment of h**l to the Disbelievers is not defined, and the word "Eternity" is used in the Bible for the punishment in h**l.  So, could the Bible's Eternity have an end?  No one really knows.

Allah (swt) will judge us all on judgement day, kaffirs who don't believe will be punished for commiting shirk & not believing in Allah (swt) their punishment will be severe, however because Allah (swt) is most merciful He will not let them be punished forever. After their punishment, I had read somewhere that they will be rewarded paradise.

Answer 6

The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=9&...

Paying Jizyah is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=9&...

Fighting the Jews and Christians is legislated because They are Idolators and Disbelievers

Allah the Exalted encourages the believers to fight the polytheists, disbelieving Jews and Christians, who uttered this terrible statement and utter lies against Allah, the Exalted. As for the Jews, they claimed that `Uzayr was the son of God, Allah is free of what they attribute to Him. As for the misguidance of Christians over `Isa, it is obvious. This is why Allah declared both groups to be liars,

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=9&...

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=11...

An example of the abrogation: there are 124 versus that call for tolerance and patience which have been canceled and replaced by this one single verse:

9.5. Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islâmic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikûn (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give Zakât, then leave their way free. Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Quran, there are only 43 Surahs that were not affected by this concept.

This doctrine is based on the Quran, where Allah allegedly says in Surah 2:106, "None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?" Also, in Surah 16:101 "When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not."

The Abrogator and the Abrogated

In their attempt to polish Islam's image, Muslim activists usually quote the Meccan passages of the Quran that call for love, peace and patience. The deliberately hid the Medenan passages that call for killing, decapitating, and maiming.

Muslim activists also fail to reveal to people in the West a major doctrine in Islam called "al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh" (the Abrogator and the Abrogated). This simply means that when a recent verse in the Quran gives a contradictory view to another verse that preceded it (chronologically), the recent verse abrogates (cancels and replaces) the old verse and renders it null and void.

Answer 7

according Glorious Quran ,jahannum is not a temporary jail..its permenant ,forever,and so is Jannahn forever..

Read Glorious Quran plz

Answer 8

i have no idea what that means.

what's a kaffir?

Answer 9

They are kaffirs because of their treachery and deceitfulness.....

Just as we see it in you....

Misquoting the verse on purpose  - -

No doubt those people who believe and those people who were Jews and Christians and (religionless) Sabies whoever believe in Allah and the Last Day and do noble deeds, for them is a great reward with their Rab and for them there is no fear and they will not be aggrieved.

è21.Irrespective of the fact whether one is a believer or a nonbeleiver if he/ she does noble deeds and believers in life after death he / she will be favoured by his/ her Rab with a surety of deliverance from fear and sorrow.   Allah, the Rahim (Merciful) guaramtees reward to all who do noble deeds irrespective of their being believers or non believers. This He said to correct the Jews who believe that they being the children of prophets  are entitled to have the favour of Rab. The Sabies were also a tribe of  Jes who believed Hazrat Ibrahim to be a prophet of Allah.

If u didnt understand the commentary then it means that no matter who u were before if u accept Islam you are all equal.... you cant consider yourself special or some son of god or ...... yes

It clearly says "were" too.

I hate the decietfulness in you people, then you question about kaffirs.... kaffir is someone who HIDES or denies something.

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No doubt those who believe and those (of) Jews and Sabaeans and Christians who believe in Allah and the last Day and perform righteous deeds. Then there is no fear for them and they shall not feel sad (be sorrowful)

If you believe in Allah then ofcourse you have to follow him. but they tried to kill the prophets and then changed their books...

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Answer 10

mm Kafir are those who are moshriks who worship someone beside god I don't think anybody has the right to call anyone Kafir .. Plus Jews & Christians are from Ahal al ketab (Family of the book)  

Answer 11

not all are kaffirrs

the kaffirs are the ones who associate other people with God and do haraam and sinful immoral actions

there are some christians and some jews (the true ones) that have a chance into heaven (the ones who believe in one god and fear the day of judgement)

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Read this

this should answer your question by what types of Christians and Jews are going to Jannah:

“Whoever testifies that there in none worthy of being

worshipped but God, Who has no partner, and that

Muhammad is His slave and Prophet, and that Jesus is the

Slave of God, His Prophet, and His word[1] which He

bestowed in Mary and a spirit created from Him; and that

Paradise (Heaven) is true, and that the Hellfire is true, God

will eventually admit him into Paradise, according to his

deeds.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)

Answer 12

whoever believe in Allah!!

doesn't that the verse say???

Christians believe in a triune God,don't they??

if they worship Allah,follow their books,believe in a Messanger to come then it is true they will be rewarded,

According to Islam, the righteous people from the Jews and Christians will have their Great Reward from Allah Almighty and will enter Paradise.  Let us look at the following Noble Verses:

"And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God: They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and God is swift in account.   (The Noble Quran, 3:199)"

"Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration.  They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous.  (The Noble Quran, 3:113-114)"

"Those who believe (in the Quran), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.  (The Noble Quran, 2:62)"

"Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to God and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.  (The Noble Quran, 2:112)"

"Those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and establish regular prayers and regular charity, will have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.  (The Noble Quran, 2:277)"



The Righteous and Beloved Jews in the Noble Quran:

"Of the people of Moses (i.e., the Jews) there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth.  (The Noble Quran, 7:159)"

The above Noble Verses clearly speak about the righteous Jews and Christians who believe in Allah Almighty and do righteousness and will have their Great Reward and enter Paradise.

However, according to Allah Almighty, from among the people of the Book, most of the ones who will gain Paradise are Christians; few of them are Jews.   Let us look at the following Noble Verses:

"Strongest among men in enmity to the believers [Muslims] wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, 'We are Christians': because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. (The Noble Quran, 5:82)"

"The Jews say: 'God's hand is tied up.' Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from God increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, God doth extinguish it; but they strive to do mischief on earth. And God loveth not those who do mischief. (The Noble Quran, 5:64)"

"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for God loveth those who are kind. (The Noble Quran, 5:13)"  

Answer 13

first of all, I think christians are "sort of" polytheists, not monotheists, because of the trinity belief that God is 3 separate persons.

But it is God's decision to admit whomever He wishes to Paradise. We have no right to judge or question God's reasoning.

Answer 14

Just believe in God. I mean it's a long story but in the end it makes sense. I choose culture over religion but religion is important. Sarah, atheist sucks! You guys are losers! You people have no direction. I mean, rather believe in yourself than be an atheist.  

Answer 15

2:62

please read from the link below:

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&...

I'll copy paste only a part of it here:

The Meaning of Mu'min, or Believer

`Ali bin Abi Talhah narrated from Ibn `Abbas, about,

[إِنَّ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَالَّذِينَ هَادُواْ وَالنَّصَـرَى وَالصَّـبِئِينَ مَنْ ءَامَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الاٌّخِرِ]

(Verily, those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day) that Allah revealed the following Ayah afterwards,

[وَمَن يَبْتَغِ غَيْرَ الإِسْلَـمِ دِينًا فَلَن يُقْبَلَ مِنْهُ وَهُوَ فِى الاٌّخِرَةِ مِنَ الْخَـسِرِينَ ]

(And whoever seeks religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers) (3:85).

This statement by Ibn `Abbas indicates that Allah does not accept any deed or work from anyone, unless it conforms to the Law of Muhammad that is, after Allah sent Muhammad . Before that, every person who followed the guidance of his own Prophet was on the correct path, following the correct guidance and was saved.

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5:69

please check

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=5&...

Also it is important to read the verses before and after the specified one... it clarifies part of the answer to your question already.

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and you misquoted 3:66 because this is not to be said to your brother in Islaam, but it was said to the people of the book if you read the verses before and after it

O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Why do you dispute about Ibrâhim (Abraham), while the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) were not revealed till after him? Have you then no sense? (Aali Imran 3:65)

Verily, you are those who have disputed about that of which you have knowledge. Why do you then dispute concerning that which you have no knowledge? It is Allâh Who knows, and you know not. (Aali Imran 3:66)

Ibrâhim (Abraham) was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a true Muslim Hanifa (Islâmic Monotheism - to worship none but Allâh Alone) and he was not of Al-Mushrikûn (See V.2:105). (Aali Imran 3:67)

And no matter what brother Salman might have said, you cannot call him a kafir.  There is no doubt a believing Muslim is not a kafir, but the doubt might be if the people of the book are kafir or not.  Therefore he might be right or he might be wrong , but what you said is 100% wrong.  Kafir is very heavy words, and there is big sin in calling your Muslim brother by this.  

Answer 16

this is pathetic

Answer 17

To the poster Ann N. Celaphic (I think?), just to clarify:  Christians aren't polytheists.  We see God the father ("God" or "Allah") as God.  Only him.  He is God.  

God, the Holy Spirit, is God's force in the world.  Muslims also believe that God has sent a part of himself to live among us (I don't know the verses, I apologise, and I further apologise, you may not phrase it this way but the intent is the same).  

God, Jesus, is the Holy Son of God.  By the grace of God, via the Holy Spirit, God caused Mary to become pregnant.  This means a part of God grew within Mary and was born, flesh and blood, in the form of Jesus.

It's all just God, in different forms.  Someone, once upon a time, must have decided it was better to differentiate, but Christians everywhere wish they hadn't.  It's too confusing for non-Christians.  And for many Christians too.

In any event, most Muslims I know believe that Jews and Christians can also go to heaven; the prophet Mohammed (pbuh) came to sum up and reiterate what had been said before, and perhaps clarify anything previously misconstrued or forgotten.  Islam isn't really supposed to be all that different from Christianity (which, in turn, isn't supposed to be all that different from Judaism), but here we all are.  

From the Jews I know, they believe they're going to heaven, and, as a Catholic, I can tell you we don't believe we are ;) (Catholic guilt...no escaping it lol!)

It's more fun finding similarities though, than nitpicking at differences.