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Government plans to force people to work- housing costs uk?

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after reading up on these work for dole and benefit reforms , single parents etc and people classed as "scroungers" being made to find jobs or lose benefits , i have something to ask and would like to hear views whether good or bad

Are the government considering the rising cost in housing rent charges? - okay so if you have a council home the rent is low but what about the thousands of people in homes owned by private landlords and estate agencies where the rent can be very high , sometimes up to £140 a week or more in better areas and rises every year

so a person who has little qualifications starts a full time 40 hr a week job on minimum wage=- £5.52 (last time i looked) after being hit for tax and ni contributions they prob left with about £200 a week(after a 40 hr hard graft) out of this they have to pay their landlord about £120 aweek , then council tax , and other bills , so what are they left with?

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  1. I think the UK government is also headache about the huge budget on civil servants, liberal pension funds, welfare payments, social services and educational funds. How they are going to pay for it? Is that they have the intent to get rid of the loyalty payments to the royal family? England has declined from the Great Britain or British Empire to almost all colonies are declared independent and British still colonized the Cayman Island which is known as the most expensive to live in this world. Christ Patten, the last governor of Hong Kong was deliberately to damage Hong Kong by raising the civil servants salaries by at least more than double as it should have been, by making more different political parties ever and, particularly deliberately to raise land values by 100 folds making Hong Kong the most expensive city (No. 5 at present, once claimed as No.2) to live in this world. Unlike Germany, all senior citizens are having good pension funds and live like a king, England and Canada are not bad either. However, he deliberately made most Hong Kong senior citizens to live miserably in Hong kong and many is described as a dog's life. A Nobel prize winner economist once described the staggering inflation is the monetary phenomenon. The only onr thing to do is to eliminate the stock market and real estate transactions.


  2. In the real world this new ruling should encourage the work shy spongers to get off their b-ms and contribute to society,

    but we don't live in the real world we live in Brown-land, where all the fairy's and their friends are put in the same queue along with those who are trying to survive on low wages etc,

    so what happens when these spongers refuse to pick up litter or whatever and they are suspended from benefits, will they be made homeless? will we sit by and watch their children go without food clothing or education? will we take their kids into care at 10 times the expense, will we force the singles into military type training camps, and who the h**l pays for this,

    like most of the half baked ideas this government come up with, it like them wont work.

  3. See the truth, know the truth and the truth will set you free.

    The government is a "Family Friendly Government", so why is it not easy or worth while for people to return to work?

    They don't give a monkey's toss. They have 20 hands and give with 2 and take with 18!

    Taxed until you die and if you have not the funds for your funeral, the state will cremate you with the masses, a kind thank you.

    This Government needs reform.

    They could have intervened years ago to prevent unaffordable housing.

  4. It will be the same old story.

    You'll be offered a job on the minimum wage. You'll then get tax credits etc., to make up the shortfall, provided by the taxpayer and the only winner will be the company you're working for in the form of increased profits by paying you the minimum wage.

    There's a local distribution warehouse for a major high street chain not far from where I live. They now use mostly foreign workers on a part time basis from employment agencies and pay them the minimum wage, instead of full time employees.

    I know a 32 year old fully qualified welder. He's had to go back to college because he can't get a job and he's down to selling strawberries door to door. Reason he can't get a job, big welding companies are bringing in welders from the Polish shipyards who will work for a lot less than he can afford to.

    It's called cheap labour.

  5. So you are saying you would be better off on benefits?

  6. Personally, I will not play ball. They will have to feed me in one of their prisons.

  7. they would get benefit.

  8. My partner is on minimum wage and we have amortgage to pay which comes out at about £100 a week.  We struggle big time.  We get NO help with Council Tax and are currently in arrears with this.  

    We get Tax Credits which help a bit, but I've had to start working part time and my partner had to take on a second job just to make ends meet (which reduced our tax credits).

    The Government do not take your housing costs into account when the work out your entitlement to means tested benefits.  For example, to get council tax benefit a couple with one child have to have an income of £160 a week or lower.  If you are working you might have a net income of £200, which means you won't get Council Tax Benefit.  Of course, £120 of that might go on rent, leaving you with only £80 a week, but you still won't get any help because you are earning £200 a week.  This is the way it works and the reason we are in arrears with our council tax.

    You can claim working tax credit or child tax credit if you are on a low income but its not much and it gets reduced if you do more hours or take on a second job because your income will increase.  So you're no better off really.

  9. The would be benefitted

  10. Gosh I wonder how our MP's manage on their £ 150,000.00 per year plus expenses, they must need the dole money to supplement their low incomes.

  11. This is life in the UK at the moment.

    No they won't get help with their rent or council tax if they are earning.  the Government do not take the fact that they might be forking out £140 a week in rent on a minimum wage salary into account.

    They might be able to claim tax credits though.  But most will be worse off in work than they would be on the dole.  Thats if they can even get a job after all the Czechs and Poles have had their share . . .

  12. I think it also isn't realistic because there aren't enough suitable jobs for everyone, latest claimant count 819,300, number of vacancies 678,600, and then consider that not everyone is going to be living where the jobs are or have the right sorts of skills when some of these jobs need skills or experience, and then that the government wants to get a million people off incapacity benefit as well.

    As to the financial aspect, people on low wages should be able to get some housing benefit if they are renting, and I also think it would be a valid reason for appeal against suspension of benefit for turning down a job if the person could provide evidence that they would be worse off.

  13. you also have to pay for the child care and then the travel to collect your children, it works out even harder when you start work. i have already worked it out down to the last penny, my husband works but i don't i stay at home with my children, if i was to work aswell and put my children into day child care (they are under 3 years old)  we would actualy be -45 a month, so we would actualy lose £45 a month by both of us working.  you dont get free child care untill the child turns 3 and even then you will only get a few hours, you have to pay for the rest.

    I have always worked but since having my children it IS actualy more financialy better for us if i don't work.

    Our rent is £525 a month from a private landlord, we have tried and are still trying to move house because we just cant afford to live right now, if i went back to work we would struggle even harder.

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