Guns. have herd of jimenez arms

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Guns. have herd of jimenez arms

Answer 1

Low cost, basic firearms, but rock solid and reliable shooters.  Not for any long range shooting, though....twenty five feet is about the max.  They're the latest incarnation of the old Raven/Davis/Phoenix/Sundance/Cobra/Jenni... etc etc etc guns.  They change names every five years or so but the guns remain the same.  They sell because they work and they work cheaply.

Anytime you hear the "oh, they're c**p...." c**p, it's from folks who have no real knowledge of the weapon in question but they think that repeating unfounded c**p they heard from someone else makes them look smart.

Those guns were actually carried by a lot of police officers as backup weapons in the years before the current mini guns came to be.  The current "experts" (read that as posers) usually talk the guns down without ever having once held one in their hands.  The same crowd of posers used to harp on how bad the Kahr guns were....until the folks who actually owned and used them told how great they actually were....now they can't say enough for them.  They've still never held one in their hands, though.

Addendum:  Sorry, H.  I didn't say "throw-down", I said "backup".  You trying to confuse the topic by lumping the two together tends to suggest that your argument is weak, bud.  *You* can easily go to the web and do simple searches that either prove or disprove what I said.  Feel free to do so....but don't just muddy the water to try to hide your lack of a valid argument.  It makes you look small.

As to lawsuits and unsafe guns etc etc etc.  I have in the past challenged *anyone* that says they know a Jennings/Bryco/Davis etc to be junk....and we certainly have enough "experts" claiming that....to find *ANY* lawsuit or monetary settlement brought by a user of one of those guns due to a malfunction that caused an injury to the shooter.  As of today, none have.  A lawsuit brought by someone shot by one simply proves that the firearms work.

As to the quality of those guns....*EVERY* time they have been tested in a valid lab by a valid testing authority, those guns have passed every time.  Kalifornia has laws that require any gun sold in that state to be tested before sale....and the Jennings/Bryco/Davis etc etc etc has passed every time.  The *one* time that they were said to have failed quality tests was in testing done by a lawsuit victim of a shooting....and the same identical guns, tested by the same identical labs, simply stamped "Davis" instead of "Bryco", passed the tests.  In that same lawsuit, attempts by the maker of the firearm to have the gun tested by a valid federal lab were denied.

No one here that speaks poorly of them can provide any proof.  That simple fact alone proves my point.

Answer 2

I have owned them and shot them and I think my record here shows that I am no poser

They are c**p guns

And that's coming from someone who vigorously defends Hi Points

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Sidenote and not to defend the JA' lack of quality

That lawsuit found that the gun was unsafe because it would fire if the trigger was pulled while  the gun was pointed at an infant

Research the case and you will see that this was nothing more than a sympathetic jury siding against a big bad gun maker

Answer 3

Man... These are Saturday night special to the max!!!! They are heavy, bulky, ugly, cheaply made, cheaply assembled, un-safe, and just plain crappy. I am not a "Name snob" I have everything from Kimbers to Taurus, S&W, CMMG, Ruger, Marlin, Remington, and Colt... Out of all those my fave is my Ruger p90 which most "Name snobs" would laugh at, but I love it... I am rambling... I'm just saying, with JA it has nothing to do with name brand or price or anything... they are just crappy poorly made guns... Look up Bryco Arms. You learn about a law suit and J.A. the result... Hope I didn't ramble. Hope this helps. I owned one for about 3 days and then sold it to a guy for like 50 bucks less than I paid for it, cause it was just that poor.

Answer 4

I did a quick Google search for JA Arms and found this answer to another person's question about JA guns:

"Answer

Chris,

Unfortunately, I've some bad news. Jimenez Arms was formed from the wreckage of Bryco Arms, which declared bankruptcy after a court awarded damages to someone injured by one of their defective handguns. The LA Times reported on Feb. 4, 2005, that the California Department of Justice ordered Jimenez Arms (which is based in Costa Mesa) to stop manufacturing the JA-9 pistol on Jan. 13 of this year. (The story can be found at: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange...

With firearms, the old adage "You get what you pay for" is truer than in many other situations. You're not alone, the very first pistol I ever bought was a $50 Jennings/Bryco J-22 that quickly shot itself apart. It's still in pieces in my gun safe waiting for the next gun buy-back program in Detroit.

As for your JA-9, I wouldn't shoot it. The article mentioned "parts coming off" the guns during testing. Considering that 9mm semi-automatic pistols harness the 360 or so foot-pounds of energy the 9mm cartridge generates upon firing to operate the weapon, that's a considerable amount of force being applied to a firearm of suspect workmanship. The last thing you'd want is for the slide to break free of the frame while firing (since when you're aiming, your face is behind the slide and that's where it's heading). At any rate, I'd find the dealer who sold you the pistol and give him a good chewing out as he should have known about the DOJ order to Jimenez Arms in January.

As for what to do with it, I'd feel bad about selling it to someone else, so, I'd wait for a police gun buy-back program or just hang on to it. Believe it or not, a lot of people collect "Saturday Night Specials," inexpensive firearms of dubious quality, particularly the older, original ones made early in the last century. As far as gun collecting goes, getting into collecting Saturday night specials is among the least expensive genres, for obvious reasons."

Answer 5

Stay away they are not safe. The quote below is from the source listed.

All three test labs reported extreme failures, including parts falling off the pistols, magazines dropping out, failures to feed, misfires, slide release malfunctions, etc. Nine of nine guns tested tailed; (sic) some were unable to even complete testing.

Answer 6

Q: guns. have herd of jimenez arms

A: Yes.  Like the other poster wrote they are real 'Saturday Night Specials!'  That defines an extremely poor quality gun used to create mayhem and murder and not good for anything else except to get a person having one into trouble with the Law.

H

ADDENDUM:  Since the 'dark days of law enforcement' no respectable police officer has carried a 'throw-down.'  That's the only reason that a police officer would ever carry a Saturday Night Special.  Nowadays officers must qualify with any weapon they carry.  The gun-manufacturer and caliber must be approved beforehand by departmental policy.  Additionally no range master would ever approve a poor quality, sub-caliber firearm for qualifications and subsequent carry by a police officer.  At least in Texas, if any police officer is carrying a 'Jimenez' he is not doing so under the colors of law.  Carried by officers for backup rankl?  It wasn't for backup, that's for sure.  "Throw-downs" were illegal even back in the day before forensics advanced to the point to where who had thrown the staged weapon down could be pinpointed.  

H