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HELP- My 2nd Grader has behavior issues at school w/Teachers and is likely to be kicked out.?

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He has not been diagnosied ADHD

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  1. I think your child needs to be evauated by a professional... he sounds to be a  very bright young man... he might need some in patient therapy and counseling.. this would help him a lot...  take him to the mental health facilty in your local area.. if they find he needs inpatient treatment.. don't hesitate ...  have him placed there... insurance should cover it.. this could save his life.. sounds to me like that you  and your husband are great parents,, you are doing all the right things to take care of this situation... keep up the good work... from a mom who has been there... good luck to you..............


  2. hey sounds a little like me (ADHD?)

  3. ouch....disipline him..when he does these things do something..grounding ect.,

  4. I think your son needs to be evaluated by a professional.  His behavior clearly goes beyond him just being bored in school.  

    I would either get him back into counselling, or have him evaluated by a developmental pediatrician or a nuerologist to see what is causing this behavior.  Good luck!

  5. Military and boarding schools don't sound like a good option for a second grader.  A seven year old needs to be with his parents if it's at all possible.  Have you had his IQ tested?  A high IQ often comes with some lack of social skills and/or emotional control.  Many teachers have a hard time dealing with a child with these types of issues because it causes a huge disruption to learning for the other 20 kids in the class.  It also makes the classroom climate feel unsafe for the other people there.  Your child really does not have the right to do that to other people and if he can not control himself, the school does have the right to suspend him or expel him if it gets that serious.  

    It doesn't seem like you're playing the blame game though and on behalf of teachers everywhere, let me say thank you for that.  Go to the intervention on 3/17 prepared with some ideas.  You said your reward and consequence system is working at home.  That may be a viable option for school as well.  Your child may be able to earn computer time, playground time, or access to other fun activities for his good behavior.  My classroom uses a color system.  Green means that you are acting responsibly.  Yellow is a warning, orange is a time out/removal from a group activity and red is the principal's office.  At the end of the day the student colors the space on their little calendar in their planner that matches their behavior for day.  Anyone who has been on green all week gets to shop at the student store and choose a prize.  During the week I also give out play money (with my face on it, haha) for behaviors that I like to see.  The better they are, the more money they have for store day.  If a student has not been on green all week, they save their money until they are allowed to shop.  It was math, social studies, and economics all in a behavior system.  Your child's teacher may be interested in implementing it as well.  I started this last year with a third grade class, and it also worked well for the 5th graders I teach this year.

    Being pregnant this year at school I knew I really had to be on top of behaviors.  I work at a school in a very rough neighborhood and many of my 5th graders have been held back several times.  Some of them are teenagers in fact.  On top of the store, I let students earn fun rewards.  We built bottle rockets and shot them off on the football field last week.  Your child sounds like he is bright and may be frustrated at school.  Extra projects and independent work may help him find an outlet for his behavior.  Maybe even taking up an instrument or karate for the discipline.  But it seems like he needs more to do at school so they have to be on board with giving him that outlet.  

    When you go to your intervention meeting, make it clear that you do not condone his behavior and that you want to work to help fix the problem.  Everyone's goal there should be to help your son and his class have a successful experience and learn as much as possible.  No badmouthing, pointing fingers, etc should be tolerated.  You want to be an effective part of the process... I can tell that right away.  Make sure they know that too.  Good luck and feel free to email if I can help any more.  I'm also attaching a web site that may be useful in the future.  I refer to it sometimes and it seems pretty effective.

  6. I agree with the other person who said he needs evaluated...however, its known that kids who are super smart, and super bored often act out...I would also see about getting him tested and possibly get him in a class that keeps him more challenged or entertained.

  7. Get him counseling for his temper and emotions.  I'm sorry to say, this is NOT normal or acceptable behavior.

    Your son has too much anger, for someone so young.  In the 2nd grade, he should be somewhat care free and easy going.   Every kid get upset, but not as much as your son.  

    It seems like he doesn't have the coping skills or the maturity to deal with stressful issues.    He needs to see someone for his anger.

    If not, he'll continue to have outbursts.   He'll become a ticking time bomb and you'll have many problems when he reaches adolescence and his hormones kick in.

    I'm a teacher's aide and I'm going to school to become a certified teacher.  IMO, this is not an issue of him being bored in school.

    There are many bright and advanced children who do not act this way.   If they do act out, they are usually the class clown.  Having outbursts and crying fits in school is just not normal development for a child his age.

    This is not an academic issue.  Bored or not, this is not normal behavior.  It's actually very toxic behavior.

    He might be able to control is anger at home.  But, he needs to learn to do in social situations (like school, at someone else's house, etc)

    At home, he realizes there are consquences and actions. Plus, as parents, you probably have certains routines with him.  You know what "sets him off" and what doesn't.  So, you might unintentionally be avoiding negative situations.

    But, in the real world, you can't avoid those situations.  In school, your son is just like everyone else.  No one is walking on eggshells to keep his temper under control.   Which is OK, the school shouldn't have to alter their routines (which effect other students), so your son behaves.

  8. Have you considered homeschooling for a bit?  Maybe until he reaches an age where he can have better control over his emotions?  Also, what do you do about it when he does get into trouble at school?  Are there consequences to his behavior?  Just simply saying "Well, that's just how he is." is not going to work.  Kids need a consistent discipline routine.  It is important to follow through with everything you say will happen.  If he knows what to expect, maybe that will help.   I would suggest medication, but if you can get him to behave well at home, then I don't think there's really any need for it.  He's just got to know that you expect him to act the same way at school that he does at home, or even better.  If anything, like I said, you could try homeschooling and then maybe joining a local homeschool group so he could get some socialization a few days per week.  Also this would give him a chance to explore other interests that are more up to his level.  That could turn things around greatly if he's not bored by school.

  9. you should send him to milatary school

  10. You are being much too over analytical. You kid is being a smart mouthed brat at school and only partially improved at home to gain rewards. A child my be good because its the right thing to do. Teach him that being good is good..period. You want him to be a good person.You will love him forever but you do not like him when he is being bad.Being smart is a great thing but being a brat is not and the smart will not get him through life with out being a good person. You are his gage of what is appropriate and not appropriate. Tell him hitting is NOT ok at his age you don't even need to get into the hit when its necessary because in 2nd grade its never necessary. You need to be very strict with him. Punishments need to be more sever than taking away a toy. Do things like explain you do not like him when he behaves badly, and yes its ok to not like your child although you will always love him..and he needs to know that. When he acts badly tell him he wont be allowed to play with other kids and you wont take him anywhere until you know he can behave like a good boy.

    Love is always the key but it doesn't have to be a weak spot for you. Love doesn't mean you have to be walked on by him. Counseling isn't what he needs, he needs you. good luck and remember hes the kid you are the parent..parents dont argue with kids they tell them. Oh and if you give up and send him to boarding type school remember you wont have much say in how he is raised because you wont be doing it..

  11. if he's very bright, he's just not being challenged and is acting up because he's bored all the time.  Maybe try letting him try something challenging outside school - like learning an instrument - so he wont feel so under-stimulated all the time.  You still need to get an educational evaluation though - the level/class he's in obv doesn't work and he'll just rot in that school if not given proper attention

  12. sounds like a kid who has not been taught rights from wrongs

    im sure a good spanking would turn him a round

  13. .i think you should get referral letter to go see child physiologist

  14. hmmm reminds me of some people usually the root to this is that he is not getting disciplined at home he feels like he can get away with anything basically. Set things straight with him. Dont send him to boarding or military school at the age (might have to if it doesnt change by middle school)

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