HHO improves gas millage yes or no?

Question

the idea is you use your battery to preform electrolysis on ordinary water and then by injecting the "HHO" gas into your engine through the air intake system you can improve your cars gas millage.

the biggest argument ive seen has to do with conservation of energy. simply that energy out cant exceed energy in, and realistically will never even be equal. meaning the energy used to break the water apart cancels the effect of injecting HHO into the engine.

2 things that ive seen that may be overlooked by skeptics

1) i read combustion of gas in the engine isnt complete and HHO will increase the combustion efficiency. meaning more energy from the gas your already using.

2) i also read your alternator produces more energy than your current system uses and this energy could be used for electrolysis instead of being wasted

so im wondering if the energy from these 2 sources will indeed make this system worth installing in my car.

Answer 1

2) i also read your alternator produces more energy than your current system uses and this energy could be used for electrolysis instead of being wasted

If your alternator produces more energy than the system needs it charges the battery even more.   When it does that, it boils out the electrolyte in the battery, thus killing it or shortening its life.      On my vehicle the alternator freewheels without producing any power when it doesn't need to.

Answer 2

Looks like pseudoscience to me. If it's too good to be true.. it's probably not.

"HHO gas or Klein gas is an oxyhydrogen mixture made by water electrolysis, which has been trademarked Aquygen by the firm Hydrogen Technology Applications. Dennis Klein's patent states that his electrolyzer differs from Yull Brown's in that it lacks the electric arc feature.[16] The claimed applications of HHO are practically indistinguishable from the original claims of Yull Brown.

The HHO trademark is associated with an unproven state of matter called magnegases, and a discredited theory about magnecules, [17] which is the basis for a number of fraudulent claims, and third party water-fuelled car scam attempts."

Answer 3

Done correctly, substantial fuel economy improvement can be expected.

Few will agree, so just get to it and do the experimenting yourself. It is pretty basic science, and building the electrolyser is also straightforward.

Enjoy your experimenting!

Answer 4

why worry about gas prices

Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNZSwyUjV...

Answer 5

I think it does help. I've been researching this for a while now since it's been buzzing around where I work. Here's a forum on HHO I've been watching  --- http://www.fuel-saver.org/Forum/showthre...

The guy on this thread has gotten up to 89 mpg.

My husband's installing one on his car this week.

Answer 6

By all means experiment and enjoy yourself, but at the end of the day you will have a less efficient car than you had to start with, and it will have cost you money for the pleasure.

The conservation of energy rule does apply in this case and you can't get more out than you put in. You're right about the engine not having complete combustion, but HHO in the quantity you will get from a car battery wont improve it. You're also right that the alternator is capable of generating more power than the car needs but using any surplus capacity in this way would be extremely inefficient.

If you enjoy experimenting and you want to improve your car gas consumption, there are two really clever things you can do which are far more productive than HHO -

1. Learn about the thermodynamics and maintenance of your car engine and its component parts, tune the engine to give your car maximum operating efficiency, learn to recognise the noises and other indicators of wear and tear, and take early action to remedy any faults.

2. Drive your car carefully, always keeping gas consumption in mind. This means accelerating gently, keeping good distance from the vehicle in front, and minimising the use of your brakes.

Answer 7

let me start off by saying Hydrogen is a great option for the concept of free energy.     I built my first hydrogen cell about 5 years ago. Have converted over 50 vehicles in the last 10 years (gydrogen and EV) and now currently run 2 trucks (and another EV), my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen for free with caught rain water and the help of a $10 solar panel.  I offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at www agua-luna com or you can email me.

There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it... chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I'll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of a DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on hydrogen safely. The entire guide is available at www agua-luna com

    On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder size amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas. the following were actually taken out of my $5 guide available at www agua-luna com

    Chemically

    1. You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a s***w on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    2. Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano’s do to).

    3. Then simply add water, s***w on the top and wait a few minutes.

    What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don’t really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

    Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

    1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.

    2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.

    3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    4. Then simply add water, s***w on the top cap and wait.

    After a few hours tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

    The third method is more complicated and is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here www agua-luna com

It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

www agua-luna com

Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

Dan Martin

Alterative Energy / Sustainable Consultant, Living 100% on Alternative & Author of How One Simple Yet Incredibly Powerful Resource Is Transforming The Lives of Regular People From All Over The World... Instantly Elevating Their Income & Lowering Their Debt, While Saving The Environment by Using FREE ENERGY... All With Just One Click of A Mouse...For more info Visit:  

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Answer 8

In one word: Yes. (But you have to do it yourself, and you will have to know what you're doing. Otherwise, it will be a disappointment.)

P.S. "millage" is spelled "mileage".