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Has anyone either himself/herself or friends ever get out of a situations...?

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where krav maga, russian systema or other form of martial arts are used..please rate them..thanks!!

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  1. I've sparred with a friend who has taken Krav, and was very impressed.  The system works well.


  2. hmmmm.... not that i know of, although i was being followed by a guy in a snoopy suit at 11 at night and i turned around and screamed "BACK OFF OR I WILL HURT YOU!" and he still followed us, and i was really about to go and beat on this guy when he turned around and walked away

    (does not rly count lol)

  3. The philosophy and awareness from Krav Maga and various other military and Martial Arts training I have had has helped me avoid numerous situations before they ever became dangerous.

    I've been to very dangerous places and remain alive and unharmed today.

    Like all Martial Arts it is really hard to rate these arts as a whole because of the variance from one school to another.

    As far as self defense the training at Wingate in Israel is an 8, maybe a 9.

    But a lot of the classes I have come across here stateside I like to call "Cardio Krav" I would give a 2, maybe even a -3, simply because of how weakly it is taught by basically fitness pros who have gone to a few certification classes.

    Honestly, I haven't taken Systema, but from what I have seen I haven't been impressed. One of it's highest instructors was killed by a knife wielding assailant (or assailants). I have also seen a lot of questionable type of material being taught there.

    However, I have also heard some people whom I respect mention coming across some really good Systema stuff, some of it's blending principles when trained properly are supposed to be very effective,  so it is hard for me to say or to rate it.

    Again, this is with any Martial Art.

    There are crappy places all over, and really good places, despite style names, etc.

    I can say I have used Judo, MMA, Krav principles, and everything in my arsenal on numerous occassions while working security, and in amateur and pro fights. Also I know on numerous occassions I have learned something and dismissed it as useless at the time, only to use it later in sparring and find it to be rather effective with the slightest tweak.

    The point to that is, that everything can be effective if you find a way to make it work for you, and that you train at high intensity, high speed, against resisting opponents.

    Again, training methods are what matters. Not style name. For every great style there are crappy schools, and for every style that is somewhat written off as not being effective, there are great schools that train it properly so that it is effective.

    I have seen total c**p MMA schools, and really good Kung Fu and Aikido schools. While you may hear broad generalizations (I myself am often guilty of using them as well) it is because as a majority rule a certain art may not train effectively. That doesn't change the fact that there may be a good school that does.

    My suggestion if you are looking for Krav or Systema is making sure you do your research and find out who is teaching it. Keep in mind both of these arts aren't on every street corner. It is hard to find Systema or Krav schools. You can get all the info you want, make your decision then find out the nearest one is two states away.

    The easiest way is that if you have both available to you, go and check the school out. Do they spar? What are the rates? Do you see something and think "Why doesn't he just pull his arm away?"

    Static drills do no good. If it is a prechoreographed move and reaction to it, and that is all they do. You are better off seeking something else. Meaning, Attacker does a single overhand downward strike with knife, defender stops knife, disarms it, and proceeds to mime through ten different ways of @sskickery, while the attacker stands there.

    What you want is two guys fully padded up, going at it hard, with the Attacker trying just as hard to win as the defender.

    Keep in mind that doesn't have to happen out of the gate, or while learning a disarm or block. But it should happen at some point, it should be a pretty standard part of the training.

    And this goes for both arts.

    So again, hard to rate. But any art can be effective if trained properly, especially if balanced out to fill the holes and gaps in the art with another art.

    Hope that helps, feel free to message me if I can be of any further help.

  4. Never trained in Krav Maga, but I did have a friend who was into Krav Maga.

    We sparred using a marker knife because he said he could disarm my knife if I stab it at him.

    So I did a straight thrust to his chest, he trapped my arm pulled his hand to disarm, I switched the knife to my left hand and give his ribs and neck marks

    His technique might work if I'm just a teenage on a street with knife.

    Rate, so far I can't say much good about KM, it is as I said many times, is not designed to be a long term MA, but short effective training for military people who only spend very little of their training timefor the MA.

    It might work against untrained opponents and it might gives you general idea on how to fight, but it's not as effective once you're fighting someone who knows how to fight.

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