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Has anyone heard about 2012? ?!?

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apparently the world is going to end or something. i know it sounds sooooo far fetched and i am definately not gullible but i was told if i dont believe to ask people who knows and to do some research...i wondered if anyone has heard of 21st dec 2012 what is supposed to happen?

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  1. You'll be enjoying your christmas holidays at your house with your parents.


  2. No one has every heard about 2012 before - you're the first.

    First this minute, anyway.

    The end of the Earth has been predicted for August 8th 2008, June 6th 2006, May 5th 2005, 2001, 2000, and 1999.  In each case, the claim was completely certain.  That's why we're all dead now.




  3. The Mayans did not predict anything. The prediction came from a couple of fake scholars who wrote a sensational book a few years ago based on next to no evidence. The Mayan 'long count of days' ends in 2012 because their system of counting could not handle large numbers easily.

    Then along came some more frauds and added the idea of a rogue planet affecting Earth based on the lies of a character called Zecharia Sitchin,  He claimed a planet he called Nibiru orbits the Sun every 3600 years and soon would be in the inner solar system where it, or it's inhabitants could affect the Earth.  

    Another different planet which was supposed to be here in 2003 (Oops) was predicted by Nancy Lieder, who claims to be in telepathic contact with aliens from Zeta Reticuli.  So there were actually two different planets. Sitchin disagreed with her.  Oops.

    The 2012 frauds have rolled these two planets into one because two different planets affecting Earth in the same few years would strain the credibility of all but the most gullible.

    Needless to say astronomers have not detected these planets at all.

    When one fraud reads on the net what some other frauds say about 2012, he/she is likely to get on the bandwagon with something he/she cooked up for the same time. So it looks as if many people are saying the same thing from different lines of evidence. But they are just copying each other about the date and making their evidence up.  Some of their nonsense is here.

    Planetary alignments - no. Planets will be scattered about the solar system in Dec. 2012 as usual. Oops

    Galactic centre alignments - no. Not possible since the Earth orbits the Sun at an angle to the average plane of the galaxy. Oops

    Magnetic poles will keep moving as they usually do.  Changing over takes hundreds or thousands of years to happen, but it does happen..

    Change in the poles of rotation.  No.  The rotation of the Earth is stabilised by the influence of the Moon.

    Precession - will not stop or change direction or the rate it happens.

    Photon belt - It's supposed to be round the '7 Sisters' star cluster. Our

    solar system is heading away from them.  Oops (It does not exist anyway.)

    Prophecies

    The Book of Revelation is unintelligible.  Not a single prophecy based on it has happened.  Oops.

    Nostradamus never predicted anything clearly or accurately and much of what he wrote is unintelligible too.  Some editions of his verses contain faked material introduced by frauds.  

    The Bible Codes were shown to be fraud almost a dozen years ago. The fraud who invented them, Michael Drosnin, predicted nuclear war in 1997. Oops.

    Edgar Cayce was a remarkable person but like all mystics when he tried to predict the future he fell flat on his face.  By now much of California should have slid under the sea, according to him. Oops

    The disaster 2012 fraud does not survive elementary fact checking.

      

  4. It means Britian will  end it will be Bankrupt  - as the Government will have taken everyones money to pay for the London Olympics...

  5. It is just a myth which mysteriously propagates (mostly because of the History Channel and YouTube)

    The interpretation of the Mayan calendar thing is just plain wrong – it’s just the end of a cycle. And since calendars are based on astronomical motions of one kind or another, they are inherently cyclic. Our western calendar ends on December 31st every year!

    Planet X/Nibiru does not exist. If it did we would have found it by now. We have mapped the sky in the infrared several times in the last 25 years (including WMAP, IRAS etc), and it would show up. It is not there. We would have found it if it existed. So all the nonsense about the return of Nibiru/Planet X is just that – nonsense

    There is no scientific evidence for the existence of Nibiru

    Furthermore, at the distance it must be to hit us in a little over 4 years, it would be reflecting enough light from the sun to be detectable.

    Thanx to previous question from Brant and answer from bikenbeer2000, we know how bright it should be by now – it would have a apparent magnitude of 7.4 – which would not be visible with the naked eye – but easily visible in a modest telescope and would have been spotted by amateur. If there was a conspiracy to keep it quiet – it would be out of the bag by now.

    Ask someone where it is supposed to be, get a pair of binoculars and look for it.

    Furthermore, it is supposed to be in orbit around a brown dwarf. We have detected brown dwarfs at much larger distances than the alleged distance of the sun’s mythical brown dwarf companion, so why haven’t we seen this “star:?

    The videos on YouTube that purport to have evidence are disingenuous to say the least. They put together pictures of other objects (e.g. Jupiter, comets even a dust shell around a distant red giant star) and try to scare people. There is no validity to their claims. They present NO EVIDENCE at all.

    As for the predicted catastrophes – the most popular one seems to be the Pole Shift!

    The sun will have a pole reversal that year – it has one every 11 years – it is not a problem.

    The earth’s magnetic field is less predictable –

    but is still nothing to worry about: we know that the magnetic field does not collapse in the process of reversing polarity- if it did, there would be major extinctions that correlate with the geologic record for pole reversals - there is no correlation.

    Now let’s tackle the “Galactic Alignment”

    Here’s a nice site that explains what it means, and explains that is does not happen on December 21st 2012:  http://alignment2012.com/whatisGA.htm

    Also see the wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Al...

    which tells you that the precise alignment of the solstice with the Galactic equator was in 1998. It did not cause problems. The Galactic Equator is purely a human construct – not a physical thing. And we do not get any closer to the black hole in the center, which remains approximately 8000 parsecs (26,000 light years) away.


  6. Yes, I have. About ten thousand times too many.

    What is it with people and doomsday prophecies, anyway? Why is 'The world is going to end on such-and-such a date!' so attractive for so many millions of people? And furthermore, why do doomsday prophecies remain so attractive despite literally hundreds of them having been proven wrong in the past? It still mystifies me how anyone can take this mayan calendar stuff seriously, much less the bullcrap about Nibiru. To cut a long story short, no, the world is not going to end on December 21, 2012.

  7. The world will end in 2045. I know that for a fact. But I'm not telling how I know. So you'll just have to live with that. Sucks to be you.

  8. the sun is aslo due to have a huge solar flare around 2012 which could reverse the poles.

  9. The Mayans used a numbering system for dates that only works up to Dec 21st 2012. Various crackpots have decided that this means the world will end on that date and people are coming up with increasingly bizarre ideas about how this will happen. It's best to ignore them all.

  10. Oh, don't be silly!

  11. It will be the end for Britain's economy, when berks like Seb Coe have spent all our money on the Olympics.

  12. Never heard of it... unless you count the other 8765 people who have asked about this already.

  13. that is the date that the Mayan calender ends.. so people believe that the world will end on that day.

    but I also thought it was 12/12/2012...

    short explanation:

    the Mayans were indigenous people in Mexico (before the Spaniards came).. they had a high mastery of science, especially astronomy.. so they created a perfect calender (i.e. no need for a leap year)..

    They created and wrote out a calender that went on for years and years after the disappearance of the cities.. thousands of years actually.. and for some reason, it ends on Dec. 12 (or 21), 2012.

    This was not a holiday to them, the end of a season, or the end of the year, so people question why?

    some people say that because of their high knowledge of astronomy, they knew that the world would end on that date..

    I guess we'll know if that theory is correct in a few years.

    (the Discovery channel did a show about this a few months back, you may want to look and see if you can find it)

  14. It is the end, in a sense, of the Mayan calendar, which is based on 360 day "year" periods.  Note, it is not the end of the world, just the end of this cycle (about 5000 years) of their calendar and it will start over the next day in another cycle.  Mayan scholars have tried to match the Mayan calendar with our calendar and this is the most widely accepted date for matching the end of the "Great Cycle" for their calendar with our calendar.


  15. ok, i heard that the world will end in 2012 and what some skeptics think will happen is:

    Chronology of Events leading to December 21 2012

    The list of events that are taking or have taken place in our history that prove 2012 will be of grave importance. Please be aware that some events on this list are not "recorded" in our modern history (ie past 2000 years).

    1. The Sumerians occupied ancient Mesopotamia (Iraq). They were the 1st civilization to document their lives, their beliefs and facts about their civilization. From them, the Hebrews, Hopi Indians, Greeks, Romans and other civilizations have also recorded historical information that we have today as proof that they indeed lived and survived Nibiru's last visits.

    2. Nostradamus, who lived in the 15th century Europe, had prophetic “visions” that he left for all to read about and heed in the years extending after his death. Many of those predictions have already come true, some still need to occur.

    3. Edgar Cayce, a 20th century prophet and seer through dreams in a trance induced state, left many predictions of the fate of the world in the years after his death. Casey made predictions that have so far, been on target and many still to yet be fulfilled.  

  16. if you give enough credence to the pin-heads predicting disaster in 2012 even to post this question, you, dear, are gullible.

    absolutely nothing will happen in 2012 from the 'predictions' given.

    show me ONE case where Nostrildamus ever clearly predicted ANYTHING!  The man wrote in gibberish.  Intentionally!  And people think he was SMART?

    the funniest predictions have to do with astronomy.  They are DOOZIES.  A galactic energy beam shot from the black hole at the center of the Milky Way...  A phantom planet that 'wanders thru' the Solar System "pardon, me... excuse me... coming thru.." yet leaves no evidence of its passing, a photon wave from the Pleiades.. The Giant Space Squid... (okay, I made that last one up, but who could tell?)

    basically... there will be nuts.  LOTS of nuts.  TREES full of nuts, some wearing Tinfoil Hats and some not.  Sooner or later, someone not wearing a hat is gonna say soemthing... and Bam!  Sock!  Sucker Punch!  The nerds will be breaking glasses and pulling hair all over the place.  Chaos in 2012!

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