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Has anyone seen the Zeitgeist movie? What did you think?

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DO you believe what it says or do you think its all BS?

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  1. Too many questions, few  honest answers, a lot of suppositions who sound true = very likely the truth


  2. I have a friend who sent me a copy who swares it is true, not sure myself though but definety find it suspect.

  3. I've seen it and consider it mostly BS.

    It is a schlocumentary of the filmmakers personally-held views of the world, using selective and false evidence.

    - Regarding part 1: Jesus

    The "Mythology of Jesus" theory was an obscure and generally dismissed theory. It has gained exposure due to author "Acharya S" and her collaboration with the Zeitgeist filmmaker. (She is also author of the films companion guide). But even the casual viewer will recognize some of the silliness of the arguments. "Son"="Sun"? "3 kings=3 stars on Orions" belt? Who buys this stuff?

    Some other views:

    " The idea of Jesus as a myth is rejected by the majority of biblical scholars and historians. In 2004, Richard Burridge and Graham Gould stated that they did not know of any "respectable" scholars that held the view today. Robert E. Van Voorst has stated that biblical scholars and historians regard the thesis as "effectively refuted"."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_myth_...

    For a point-by-point analysis, see http://www.conspiracyscience.com/article...

    For more rebuttals, see http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-...

    - Regarding Part II: 9/11

    It should be noted upfront that being skeptical of the 'official version' of anything presented by the government or media, is a good thing for society. And it should also be noted that questioners of 9/11 'offical versions' range from genuine intellectual pursuits of greater truths, to bizarre interpretations specifically intended to support a unwavering point of view.

    The Zeitgeist filmmaker is part of that spectrum that has bought into the theory that the government orchestrated the whole thing. Unfortunately the evidence they selected and presented was sloppy and much of it easily disproved, even by members of the Truth movement. (I've heard some speculate this may have been a red-herring to discredit the 'truth' movement).

    For a point by point analysis, see http://www.conspiracyscience.com/article...



    - Regarding Part III: Men behind the curtain

    As a liberatarian, I found this part to have had the most potential in exposing abuses of government and men in power. Instead, it trots out tired long disproven conspiracy theories.

    "Income Tax law Doesn't exist" theory - Very stale. Consistently disproven over-and-over again. No new information, just new victims going to jail that fall for these arguments. Very sad.

    "Federal Reserve System is owned by international bankers" - Still a common conspiracy theory. Still wrong. The Federal Reserve System, is headed by the Board of Governors, a Government Agency (look it up - http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/ind... ). The Federal Reserve branches can definitely be considered tightly regulated corporations owned by their member banks, all of which must be American-owned by law. It is receives regular audits, and is overseen by congress.

    For a point-by-point analysis, check out:

    http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-...

    http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-...

    http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-...

    Other views:

    "There is no shortage of information which refutes this viewpoint. But this type of conspiracy relies on two elements common to web surfers: First, they're only willing to check facts at the most superficial level, which usually means they'll read a message or watch a clip just once before forming an opinion and moving on. " Ref:

    http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/media/s...

    "...(a) common problem in the film: presenting something in such a shallow manner without further corroboration or scholarly evidence." - Ref:

    http://gauntlet.ucalgary.ca/story/12284

    There are those who defend the film because they believe that agenda+motive is more important than truth. There is a certain irony here since the films overarching thesis is to be wary of those who would obfuscate the truth in an attempt to persuade others to their point of view. Even more bizarre are allegations that detractors of the film must be agents of some sort and part of the grand conspiracy.

  4. i first saw the film 6 months ago and havent managed to disprove a single thing it says, yet. and beleive me ive tried. ive spent hundreds of hours studying religion and found that to be all true. 9/11 studied, straight up true. banking yeah thats just the tip of the iceburg, also many reserve banks throughout the world in the same hands, all of europe anyway, and the world bank. one world government?? we'll see if it happens!

    I found it a real eye opener. many many things are not as they seem!!

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