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Has there been a Welsh King called Llewellyn the Red?

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I am a distant ancestor of a Welsh King called Llewellyn. My Grandfather who researched this died 2 years ago, and cannot remember his exact title.

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  1. The last Welsh prince of wales was called Llewellyn-but I was under the impression that he dies childless


  2. I think you have the answer to the best part of your question above, but just as a footnote - there has never been a king of Wales, we are a princedom.  That's the reason we don't appear on the Union (Jack) flag, it's made up from the flags of the 'kingdoms' of Scotland, Ireland (north) and England.

  3. Llewellyn the Bowen

  4. There was Llewellyn Fawr, and he does have living descendants (he was married to Joanna, the natural daughter of King John). He was succeeded by his son by Joanna, Davydd, who was succeeded by his nephew Llewellyn the Last.

    Llewellyn the Last was the second son of Owain, Llewellyn Fawr's eldest son by his mistress Tangwystl (keep in mind that in Wales illegitmate sons had the same rights of inheritance as their legitimate brothers). He married Eleanor de Montfort, daughter of the famous Simon de Montfort.

    Their only child Gwenllian was packed off to the nunnery by Edward Longshanks.

    He may be thinking of Owain Lawgoch (Owain "Red-Hand'), who was a great-nephew of Llewellyn the Last  through his his brother Rhodri who essentially retired to lands given to him by Edward I.

    You can read more about him here :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owain_Lawgo... you can also follow the various links to find more information about the Llewellyns and the principality of Gwynedd).

  5. Try looking at the following web-site.

    There was a Red and White Welsh dragon according to legend.

  6. Not that I know of, however here's a complete list -

    http://www.british-towns.net/welsh/natio...

  7. I think you mean descendant, an ancestor is someone who came before, there may have been we (English) may have know him as Anglicized version.

  8. Llewellyn was a Welsh Prince.  There were no Kings of Wales as such.

    Princes of Wales page 3

    Father: Llewellyn II "The Great", Prince of Wales, b. 1173 in Aberffraw, Caernarvonshire, Wales, d. 11 April 1240 in Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, ...

    http://www.geocities.com/missourimule_20... - Cached

    Prince Llewellyn’s stone at Cilmery :: Stay in Wales

    Prince Llewellyn’s stone at Cilmery. One of many good quality, large pictures from the Welsh photo gallery, part of an extensive holiday guide.

    http://www.stayinwales.co.uk/wales_pictu...

    WELCOME HOME TO WALES

    Gorsedd

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzwqEryew...

    National Anthem of Wales - "Land of My Fathers"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpYogExUn...

    Miss Shirley Bassey - "Gold Finger"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crn5ephc4...

    Some of my notes:

    Half the signatories of the American Declaration of Independence were Welsh.

    Abraham Lincoln was Welsh - his parents came from Wales to settle in the United States of America.

    There are about 500,000 Welsh folk in the USA.

  9. Ah Lilly the Red........................................

    no don't think so lol

  10. No, but there was Llywelyn the Great, who was a Prince of Gwynedd in North Wales and eventually de facto ruler over most of Wales. He is occasionally called Llywelyn I of Wales. There was also Llywelyn the Last, who was the last prince of an independent Wales before its conquest by Edward I of England. He was one of the four sons of Gruffydd, the illegitimate son of Llywelyn the Great.

    However, unusually for a Welsh prince, Llywelyn the last had no heirs (illegitimate sons being allowed by Welsh law to inherit), and depended on Eleanor to provide him with one. In 1282, she gave birth to a daughter, Gwenllian, but died in doing so, an event which seems to have had a serious emotional impact on Llywelyn.

    Llywelyn the Great had many issues (both legitimate and illegitimate children:

    Dafydd ap Llywelyn

    Gruffydd ap Llywelyn

    Elen ferch Llywelyn

    Gwladus Ddu

    Marared ferch Llywelyn

    Gwenllian ferch Llywelyn

    Angharad ferch Llywelyn

    Susanna ferch Llywelyn

    Owain Lawgoch (Owain of the Red Hand) full name Owain ap Thomas ap Rhodri (c. 1330 - July 1378), was a Welsh soldier who served in Spain, France, Alsace and Switzerland. As the last politically active descendant of Llywelyn the Great in the male line, he was a claimant to the title of Prince of Gwynedd and of Wales. The male line of the Gwynedd dynasty became extinct with the death of Owain Lawgoch in 1378. Thereafter, to the extent that a Welsh claimant to the title of Prince of Wales did exist, it was Owain Glyndwr.

    http://www.castlewales.com/lawgoch.html

    http://www.fforwmhanescymru.org.uk/owain...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/history/sites...

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