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Has there been any studies regarding female employees and insubordination?

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I find it difficult to believe I'm the only person to have observed many (not all, but many) female employees will argue about performing the most simple tasks, while whining about bosses "being on power trips" and such. Has there ever been a study about this. Is it possible for the feminist movement to have led many women to believe that there is no circumstance under which they should be told what to do, especially by a man? It's not good news for society when employers can't tell employees what to do anymore, or does someone have some bright idea about how it's actually better this way?

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  1. Working as a teacher of aolescents, I have found that girls are more likely to challenge a teacher's instruction than boys are, and that comes from information from hundreds of teachers during research.  There is an even greater tendency when the teacher is a man, and girls will, often consciously, try and manipulate a male teacher using sexual cues (the proverbial batting of the eye-lids and so on).

    Discussions with my students sometimes brings up the idea that no man must ever boss a woman around in the workplace, but then these girls forget that work is not a forum for feminism or individualism (the other excuse given for insubordination) and that the work-place is somehwere where any boss can control any employee as the needs of the business and skills of the employess dictate.  There are many safe-guards to prevent abuse here.

    Seebee girl, the misconduct was not sexual, and I never made any claim that it was.  It was gender based, and was made be teenage girls who use the claim that men must not boss women around.  It is not nearly so uncommon for girls to challenge male authority figures as you suppose, and most women wil resort to sexual blandishments in an attempt to wrap men aroung their little fingers.  

    It happens all the time when you teach girls, and is a very effective tool many girls grow up to use in other parts of their lives.  The instructional work you have done appears to be, military in nature, and you are far less likely to see feminine behaviour of that sort there.

    You might question my credibility, fine, but I in turn question your balance and experience:  Military life does not reflect the rest of the world, and what you saw there is  certainly not indicative of how women behave in my circles of endeavour.  Having been 6 years in the military too, I noticed far fewer displays of feminine wiles in the military.  You don't want to see females as challenging of authority or insubordinate, and neither does the education system where I live: that is why teachers are told to ignore the poor discipline of girls, and come down hard on boys.


  2. I've never observed this at any of my workplaces, and apparently, neither has anyone else here. Even if this did go on, feminism would not be the cause of it (DUH), just jealousy.

  3. I have studied in erotica young ladies get a spanking for their insubordination and their sheer impertinence and affrontery towards their boss...naughty naughty girl not... doing... what... you ...are... told..tut tut tut...whack whack whack

    Seriously though your question is highly contentious..Men are often insubordinate for matters concerning their ego and the conceit inherent in that. The need it seems to despotically control and dictate to all in a MAANNLY fashion. Women stereotypically are seen as unlikely to cause strife and be rather compliant in their work dealings

  4. i don't think there have been studies of this, either. but if there had been, they would be studying what happened at work.

    there would be GREAT difficulty linking the behavior you observe to feminism, as opposed to , let's say, caffeine consumption. the feminism link you assert is probably not testable at all.

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    and i agree with another poster, i have seen plenty of this behavior from men.   I suspect you notice the women doing this because you don't approve of women speaking out or arguing with a boss, or anyone else.

    There are times when arguing with the boss is the right thing to do.  

  5. insubordination in the workplace is a male and female issue not strictly a female issue

  6. I have not had this experience with female employees or female students.  I doubt any studies have been done along the lines you are alleging since they would be considered sexist.

  7. Probably not, given that it's unlikely a fact, but rather a perception of gents like yourself and the poster "owains".

    In 10 years in the military, I've noticed that the proportion of men who are aggressively insubordinate towards superiors far exceeds women. And despite this observation, I find it irrational to pin such behavior to the male gender, as doing so would mean ignorning the obvious differences that exist between individuals.

    On a different note, I recall a news report on scam artists often targeting women because they seem generally more apologetic and less argumentative.

    Owains, I don't know where you've seen such blatant sexual misconduct on the part of female students, but as a former instructor myself, I must really question the credibility of your observations as a widespread phenomenon.

    Owains: Using sexual cues to manipulate professors is nothing short of sexual misconduct, however minor. And yes, I still question your statement of how widespread it is, considering that I am well familiar with the civilian classroom environment as well. I am not disputing that it doesn't happen, just how often. Additionally, I tend to think that people selectively observe whatever reinforces their beliefs, while unconsciously dismissing contrary evidence; I think that is the case with the OP.

    Regards, and thank you for your military service.

  8. Funny I notice an equal amount of men and women that do this not only to the opposite s*x but to boss' in general.  Maybe we would get to the bottom of the problem if we were not so busy to claim it is a gender issue.

  9. I think it is just you. Study after study suggests that women are more likely to be compliant, not argumentative and insubordinate.

    But maybe the women you have observed do not respect their boss, for whatever reason, and do not see that person as a leader.

  10. I've seen female coworkers whine about being given tasks and about bosses being on power trips at about the same rate as I've seen male coworkers do it.

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