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Has your former self died for Jesus or has just become slightly ill ?

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I expected Yahoo to try to put this in diseases ! LOL !

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  1. I remain singularly unimpressed by any god who has to sacrifice himself to himself, in order to change a law he himself made...


  2. to assume that we embody an absolute self at one moment is absurd. i disagree with the notion that we have definite identities now which may be different from our former identities. humans are fluid and spontaneous. our identities vary from case to case, people to people, social role to social role, even from hormonal condition to another. it's the philosophies that change. not the essence of our individualities.

  3. No my former self is alive and well but subsumed in my present self which is as evil and full of sublime mischief as ever.

    Frankly, my Chickadee, Jesus didn't do a d**n thing for me or you or anybody else but get himself killed which was as easy as pie in those days. There were thousands of men, some of them heroic, who got crucified. Should I worship Jesus as a some kind of god instead of them? If I am going to make a god out of Jesus, I might as well make gods of the thousands of other men who got crucified too.

    Hindus do that. They make gods of everybody. You are a god. Even me. Imagine that. I too like Caligula Caesar can say "I existed before the first star shone in the heavens and will continue to exist after the last star has fallen from the sky. Although, I have taken the form of ?, I am no man as I am all men. Therefore, I am a god!"

    Apparently Jesus thought he was a god too, or if he himself was too smart for that [like Tiberius Caesar "I am not [a god], not even when I'm dead."], his stupid followers did.

  4. I feel like I'm about ready to die, so I'm headed in the right direction, right?! :-)

    Seriously, Okay, I was just kidding there.  I see your point.  Good illustration!


  5. If you would of asked this 6mths ago, I would of said I had completely died to self for Christ.

    However, the last 6mths has shown me, how much I still do rely on the flesh and haven't fully completely trusted God in all areas of my life.

    As someone described it to me while sitting at an airport yesterday,  satan has WMD-- (weapons of mass destruction) that he pulls out when you are at your peak with God.  When there are things you are called to do, satan pulls out all the knocks.

    I had a WMD.. blindsided, injured what God was calling me to do, and now am recovering and trying to get back on track.  

    Had I kept my eyes focused on Christ, this wouldn't of happened.. huuuuuge lesson learned.

  6. I died for Jesus's sins.

  7. I would say that Jesus and Christian-dogma and bible-thumping hellfire and brimstone made me more than slightly ill -- let's say "severely nauseous, with mental cramps." Finally I got fed up enough to come to my senses and leave it.

    I became an atheist for about ten years, which was a refreshing breath of fresh air at the time, a newfound freedom from the psychological terrorism of bible dogma about how everyone is born evil and deserves to be tortured for eternity, etc. Suddenly I was free to just live my life and be happy, and not worry about the inane whims of some dour, tyrranical deity who has nothing better to do that interfere in everybody's life and try to make them miserable.

    But then...Eventually I found atheism unsatisfying. I found myself yearning for some kind of spiritual connection, but this time to Nature Itself, which was what most inspired me. And I found that connection in Pantheism, which is the spiritual philosophy that Nature Itself is what is most divine and holy. Then a few years later I discovered the neopagan movement, and came to realize that most pagan religions were not only polytheistic but also pantheist too. So I found my spiritual home in the religion of Wicca, and finally found real spiritual depth, fulfillment and joy.

    It's up to each of us to find or create our own spiritual path in life -- whether it be Pagan, atheist, agnostic, Christian, Hindu, Muslim, etc. Just don't go pushing it on other people. And especially not if it involves silly ideas like thinking that a "loving" god would arrange to have someone else tortured to death for your "sins" and if you don't accept that, then he'll send you to be tortured for eternity.

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