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Have all of the 9/11 truthers familiarized themselves with the crash of ValuJet 592?

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I believe one of the bones of contention for the truthers is that a Boeing 757 could not crash into the Pentagon and disintegrate. However, in 1996 a ValuJet DC-9 barrelled headfirst into WATER, yes WATER, and they could barely find a piece bigger than a few feet long. Now I remember the pain of belly flops as a kid as much as the next guy, but I gotta believe water is a lot more flexible than ground, concrete and steel, and it was still enough to turn an airplane into a bunch of little bits.

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  1. Water is pretty hard when you hit it at 400 mph.

    I think the parts would also sink, so obviously they wouldn't find very many.

    Not defending the 9-11 truthers or anything.


  2. Thing is the pentagon is made of at least 2 feet of reinforced granite. It was built as a bunker at a time when we expected air raids from Germany. A 757 is made of aluminum and some composites. Its a surprise we found as much as we did of the plane.

  3. don't bother the 9-11 kooks with details or facts,

    the will just ignore you.

    never mind the fact that over 100 people in the area saw first hand the plane fly into the building !!!

  4. Careful how U use the term "the 9/11 truthers". Generalizing makes people look narrow minded. Not all buy the CIA-planted missile theory. Evidence exists for an aircraft of some size and type. The govt's claim that it was "that" plane is questionable tho per the evidence. Its also preposterous to believe "that" pilot could have pulled of "that" very swanky maneuver to strike where it did.

    How darned convenient for the criminals that stole the $2.3 trillion that the bird just happened to strike the financial audit area.  Presto … no chance now to investigate where the $2.3 trillion went. Ahem. Ahem.

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/corruptiongov...

    http://www.rense.com/general75/folow.htm

    Ya know, the govt. could clear it all up real quick by releasing the confiscated surveillance tapes. Why don't they? Keeping the CIA-planted missile theory alive works for them I guess---keeps the peeps divided, keeps lots of sheeple asleep cuz its debunkable. Nice loving and benevolent govt! It could unite the peeps by releasing the info, but prefers to keep the peeps divided and eyes off the ball.

    911 was an inside job. Take the other pill.

  5. ummmm yeeeaaaahhh, were going to need you to not worry about the wack jobs anymore.  They are just wack jobs and pose no threat to anyone.

  6. do not try to reason with the nutjobs that believe that 9/11 was an inside job

    They are too far gone to be helped.

    I love when they offer for proof that jet fuel can not burn hot enough to cause a stell structure to collapse.

    It must be a strange world they live in, in reality jet fuel burns p[lenty hot enough to weaken a steel building enough to cause collapse

  7. Or is it that it is all they admitted to finding. would they have any reason to lie about their findings to support previous claims. Also how deep was the water. wouldn't the big parts sink down deep and not be findable or recoverable.

  8. I read water had roughly 1/10 the hardness of concrete.

  9. What the "truthers" fail to realize is that a 757 hitting the Pentagon is of the same caliber as an egg slamming into a cinder block.

  10. I think people should just live their lives and not worry about things that are beyond their control :)

  11. I consider myself a "truther" as I try to remain objective until I hear both sides of an argument.

    In the case of the pentagon, there is not a scratch on the pentagon where the wings should have hit the building...

    Thus the  probability of "conspiracy".

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