Have feminists made a bunch of weak guys today?

Question

Many guys today are too emotional and needy when it comes to females. They bring flowers to the first date, they fall all over the girl, and put her up on a pedestal. This in turn, makes the female not attracted to the guy and think he is a loser and moves on. Then the guy is like aww, why do girls only like jerks, I treated her so well. Well, its because you act pathetic and unnatural around her. But feminists have tried to pound into everyones heads the sexual advances are bad and that females are the same as men (you have to talk to a female much different than a man, you can't talk about your work day and the football game with your date). So, have feminists made a bunch of loser nice guys out of the male population?

Answer 1

I'm with the guy above me. Last time I brought flowers on a date I got laid AND ended up having a kick @ss relationship with that girl for awhile.

I'm a nice guy. I open doors for people, including my date, I offer to pay especially if I suggested where to go, I tell her how nice she looks and then we talk about a variety of things.

I've found that boys who whine about being the nice guy really aren't the nice guy but they have been deluded into thinking they are.

Answer 2

The "modern American female" is just no longer desirable to anyone. Pol after pol has them dead last of women in the world to marry. Men have mistakenly tried to adjust to the feminist movement which is why I agree that some have become weak / wimps. The reality of the fact is feminism does not equate to equality. It seems women want to be men unless it comes to paying for dinner, holding doors open and financially supporting the family.

I believe the American male is moving on.

You can't have it both ways...

Answer 3

Feminists don't care how men behave as long as it comes with a modicum of respect.

Answer 4

I agree that feminism has created confusion and dissatisfaction for men and women. Men get frustrated because they don't know how they are supposed to behave with women any more, so the end up getting angry. Women think they are supposed to have everything, including Mr Wonderful who is all things to all people - and then end up getting frustrated when they find out that men are just people people struggling to get by in the world.

Here are two links that illustrate the frustration on both sides:

How feminism destroyed real men Nirpal Dhaliwal

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/fe...

Why women are staying single:

http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/wome...

Final word: ladies, please remember that many of the leaders of feminism had no respect for men, no sexual need for men, and no place for men in the world. Their warped views have shaped the media, legal system, and educational that surround us today; no wonder men and women are having such a tough time trying to get along today.

Answer 5

Last time I brought flowers on a date, I got laid.

Maybe it's you...

Answer 6

"They bring flowers to the first date, they fall all over the girl, and put her up on a pedestal. "

So, if a man treats a woman well, he's being emotionally needy?  God forbid he's just treating her well.

"This in turn, makes the female not attracted to the guy and think he is a loser and moves on. "

This does not apply to every woman.  There are women out there that are attracted to men like this.  

"Then the guy is like aww, why do girls only like jerks, I treated her so well. Well, its because you act pathetic and unnatural around her. "

There is a difference between a "Good Man" and a "Nice Guy".  A Good Man is a man that treats a woman with respect and dignity.  He treats her kindly and treats her as an EQUAL.

A Nice Guy is a sappy, disgusting, and overbearing guy.  These are the guys that only do nice things just so they can be patted on the head afterwards.  They use their "niceness" as a way to manipulate women.  These are the guys that whine because they spent money on dinner, but the girl didn't even "give them a kiss", as if I'm obligated to kiss you or even shake your hand because you bought me dinner (I'm no dinner w***e).  These are the guys that hide their psychotic behavior under the guise of being 'nice'.

"But feminists have tried to pound into everyones heads the sexual advances are bad"

No, we pound into everyone's heads that UNWANTED sexual advances are bad.  Saying hello and being respectful is nice.  Grabbing my behind and making lewd comments is not.  Learn the difference.

"(you have to talk to a female much different than a man, you can't talk about your work day and the football game with your date)."

What utter ignorance.  That's why "Nice Guys" like you end up alone because you make stupid ASSumptions about what women want.  What, you think all women want to talk about "s*x and the City", and shoes?  Get real.

"So, have feminists made a bunch of loser nice guys out of the male population?"

Honestly, if a man is intimidated by a strong and intelligent female, then that speaks volumes about MEN, not women.

EDIT: Smoking up the chronic

Right, I am such an "idoit".  How about you put down the bong, and use your Spell Checker before trying to insult me.  Nowhere in my post did I say or imply that women are victims.  But of course, if you weren't a weed smoking derelict, you'd know that.

Answer 7

In many cases, yes...

Answer 8

I wouldn't think a guy who brought flowers for me on a first date was a loser.  It's not pathetic, it's nice.

<sniff> Some of us girls like that kind of stuff.  Also, what if the guy bringing flowers and opening car doors IS behaving naturally?  If she dumps him for it, it's HER problem, not his!

Answer 9

Feminism has ruined society on the whole. People are confused and lost with what they are supposed to be doing with their lives.

Answer 10

Well..... basically.

A lot of men got tricked into believing women are really the same as men. THEY ARE NOT.

A lot of men are confused because the women cry SEXISM any time a man acts like a MAN and talks to a woman the way he SHOULD. So some men get discouraged and start acting soft and weak (to be less sexist). This FAILS, because the women don't respect them.

See the confusion?

In the end its the fault of BOTH men and feminists:

-Feminists for being hypocrites

-Men for actually LISTENING to feminists! What morons!!!

Answer 11

Ha! I'd like to see what happened if you said that to my boyfriend :-)

Answer 12

Um, feminists don't make guys.  They need a man to help with that.

Answer 13

Blaming someone else for them being a loser? Nice.

Wow - it's amazing how some people will go to any lengths to not be responsible for their actions and ways of thinking.

Answer 14

Feminists are just trying to educate and explain if that's even possible with some of these trolls.