Have you read the Manhattan Declaration? It's about global warming, and why it isn't happening.?

Question

A couple of weeks ago a large group of scientists and atmospheric experts met in NYC to discuss global warming.

In concluding their discussion, they left for us the Manhattan Declaration that says basically that g/w isn't happening, and that global temperature changes are natural and normal.

Have you read it? What do you think? Just google it to find it.

Answer 1

Bob,

You've misunderstood Newt's statement. He has said that discussion needs to be held to get answers as to whether the issue of Anthropomorphic cause of Global Warming has validity OR NOT. AND also how it should be solved if it exists.

Government solutions provide poor and Expensive choices Newt's contention that IF it exists, solutions should be made by private sector.  You can read his statements on NEWT.ORG

As a so called denier I tend to be a bit more open minded to say the jury is still out and IS NOT a CONSENSUS more like CON census. .

1st, basic science practices assumes a theory must be tested and proved before it can be adopted as scientific fact.

Take the 1st Declaration of the Mahattan Declaration.

That there is no convincing evidence that CO2 emissions from modern industrial activity has in the past, is now, or will in the future cause catastrophic climate change.

What defines clear evidence?

Measurable levels of atmospheric gases do not support the global warming hysteria.

Global Warming is pseudo-science and much of the information purported is based on flawed computer models, not observational science. Until observations can prove or disproved a theory it remains a theory.  

The Global Warming "movement" is a shell for political control. For all intent and purpose green hitler's are becoming more prevalent, if you fail to adhere to dogma and doctrine of the "belief" (ie Religion) you are labeled a denier., in all likelihood if this movement gathers moss it could wind up costing us a lot.

Heartland Institute (and others) provides  sources for much more objectivity, where the current propaganda machine of the green whack jobs has so indoctrinated many formerly intelligent people fail to think for themselves.

I had a climatology course under Bill Gray at CSU a couple of decades ago, this man knows his atmosphere probably better than nearly anyone on the planet, Bill adds a level of credibility none of the idiots on the "Green Religion" can.

Answer 2

I think that it is amazing that a plant biologist who has been removed twice from his work due to poor standard of methods seems to qualify as an "expert scientist," yet so many AGW promoters declare that anyone who disagrees with them is "not a scientist, regardless of their degree, proffesional reputation and ability to convincingly make their point.

That is what I think.  Make you wonder why the Manhattan Declaration did not make the news.  I had to find out about it on Y!A.

Answer 3

Yes.  It's complete nonsense.  Just political, not scientific.  Most of the people who signed it weren't even scientists, much less atmospheric experts.

The best scientists in the country (and around the world) say global warming is real, and mostly caused by us.

The National Academy of Sciences, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Institute of Physics, the American Chemical Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Meteorological Association, etc.

There are a VERY few scientific skeptics, but this is the truth:

"There's a better scientific consensus on this [climate change] than on any issue I know.  Global warming is almost a no-brainer at this point,You really can't find intelligent, quantitative arguments to make it go away."

Dr. Jerry Mahlman, NOAA

More about the "Manhattan Declaration" here:

http://www.desmogblog.com/ny-denial-a-pa...

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/3/...

Many conservatives have become quite annoyed with the denier movement.  It's giving conservatives a bad name as ignorant.

"Former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich challenged fellow conservatives to stop resisting scientific evidence of global warming"

"National Review (the most prestigious conservative magazine) published a cover story calling on conservatives to shake off denial and get into the climate policy debate"

Answer 4

It was just a circle jerk involving a bunch of hand picked jerks.

Answer 5

I  have read the declaration.  I think the big thing that this points out is that the science is not settled and a very large number of highly respected scientists from around the globe are not buying into the hype.

If you found that statement interesting you'll want to check the site below our regularly for updated information:

http://icecap.us/index.php

Answer 6

Bob, the 2 sources you quoted were not reputable: they were written by pro-global warming environmentalists who had no proof to back up their claims.

Here's some of the scientists who signed the Manhattan Declaration and their occupations.

"The following 151 Manhattan Declaration endorsers are climate science specialists or scientists in closely related fields (this is a subset extracted from the other lists):



Syun-Ichi Akasofu, PhD, Professor of Physics, Emeritus and Founding Director, International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, Alaska, U.S.A.

William J. R. Alexander PrEng,  Professor Emeritus, Department of Civil and Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, Honorary Fellow, South African Institution of Civil Engineering, South Africa

John W. Bales, BA, MA, PhD (Mathematics, Modeling), Professor, Tuskegee University, Waverly, Alabama, U.S.A.

Timothy F. Ball, PhD, Chair, Natural Resources Stewardship Project, environmental consultant and former climatology professor, University of Winnipeg, Winnipeg, Alberta, Canada

William M. Briggs, PhD., Statistical Consultant (specializing in accuracy of forecasts and climate variability), U.S.A.

Stephen Brown, PhD (Environmental Science, State University of New York), Ground Penetrating Radar Glacier research, District Agriculture Agent Cooperative Extension Service, University of Alaska, Fairbanks Mat-Su District Office Palmer; Alaska Agriculture Extension Agent/Researcher, Alaska, U.S.A.

Robert M. Carter, PhD, Professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia

Michael Coffman, PhD, (ecosysytems analysis and climate change), CEO of Sovereignty International, President of Environmental Perspectives, Inc., Bangor, Maine, U.S.A.

John Coleman, Founder, The Weather Channel, Weather Anchor, k**i-TV, San Diego, California, U.S.A.

Piers Corbyn, ARCS, FRAS, FRMetS, astrophysicist (Queen Mary College, London), consultant, owner of Weather Action long range forecasters, degree in Physics (Imperial College London), England

Richard S. Courtney, PhD, energy and environmental consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, Falmouth, Cornwall, United Kingdom

Joseph D’Aleo, MS, BS (University of Wisconsin) Meteorologist and Climatologist (retired), Executive Director, ICECAP (International Climate and Environmental Change Assessment Project), Hudson, New Hampshire, U.S.A.

David Douglass, PhD, Professor of Physics, University of Rochester, New York, U.S.A.

Peter Friedman, PhD, Member, American Geophysical Union, Assistant professor of Mechanical Engineering, University of Massachusetts, Dartmouth, Massachusetts, U.S.A.

Edgar Gärtner, Diplôme d'Etudes Approfondies (DEA, en Ecologie appliquée, Redaktionsbüro), Frankfurt am Main, Germany

Fred Goldberg, PhD, Adj Professor, Royal Institute of Technology (Mechanical Engineering), Secretary General KTH International Climate Seminar 2006 and Climate analyst, Stockholm, Sweden

Stanley B. Goldenberg, Research Meteorologist, NOAA, AOML/Hurricane Research Division, Miami, Florida, U.S.A.

Vincent Gray, PhD, New Zealand Climate Coalition, expert reviewer for the IPCC, author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of Climate Change 2001, Wellington, New Zealand

William M. Gray, PhD, Professor Emeritus (Dept. of Atmospheric Science), Colorado State University, Head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Fort Collins, Colorado, U.S.A.

Howard Hayden, PhD, Emeritus Professor (Physics), University of Connecticut, The Energy Advocate, U.S.A.

Art Horn, Meteorologist (honors, Lyndon State College, Lyndonville, Vermont), operator, The Art of Weather, U.S.A.

Craig D. Idso, PhD, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, Tempe, Arizona, U.S.A.

Zbigniew Jaworowski, PhD, physicist, Senior Science Advisor of the Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, Poland

Madhav L. Khandekar, PhD, consultant meteorologist, (former) Research Scientist, Environment Canada, Editor "Climate Research” (03-05), Editorial Board Member "Natural Hazards, IPCC Expert Reviewer 2007, Unionville, Ontario, Canada

William Kininmonth MSc, MAdmin, former head of Australia’s National Climate Centre and a consultant to the World Meteorological organization’s Commission for Climatology, Kew, Victoria, Australia

David R. Legates, PhD, Director, Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware, Newark, Delaware, U.S.A.

Jay Lehr, BEng (Princeton), PhD (environmental science and ground water hydrology), Science Director, The Heartland Institute, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A.

Jennifer Marohasy, BSc, PhD, Biologist, Writer, Senior Fellow, Institute of Public Affairs, Director, Australian Environment Foundation, Sydney, Australia

Amos Meyer, Theoretical Physics, Applied Mathematics, Mathematical Modeling, Chief Scientist, Westport, Connecticut, U.S.A.

Ferenc Mark Miskolczi, PhD, atmospheric physicist, formerly of NASA's Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, U.S.A.

Dr. James J. O'Brien, Emeritus Professor, Meteorology and Oceanography, Florida State University, Florida, U.S.A.

R. Timothy Patterson, PhD, Professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, Chair - International Climate Science Coalition, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Gary Sharp, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, California, U.S.A.

S. Fred Singer, PhD, Professor Emeritus (Environmental Sciences), University of Virginia, former director, U.S. Weather Satellite Service, Science and Environmental Policy Project, Charlottesville, Virginia, U.S.A.

Douglas Southgate, PhD, Professor of Agricultural, Environmental and Development Economics, Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A.

Roy W. Spencer, PhD, climatologist, Principal Research Scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville, Alabama, U.S.A.

George H. Taylor, Certified Consulting Meteorologist, Former State Climatologist (Oregon), Past President, American Association of State Climatologists, Corvallis, Oregon, U.S.A.

Dr. Mitchell Taylor, Biologist (Polar Bear Specialist), Wildlife Research Section, Department of Environment, Igloolik, Nunavut, Canada

Anthony Watts, ItWorks/IntelliWeather, Founder, surfacestation s.org, Chico, California, U.S.A.

Gerd-Rainer Weber, PhD, Consulting Meteorologist, Essen, Germany

Gregory J. Balle, B.E., MSc., PhD. (Joint Aerospace Engineering and Geophysical Fluid Dynamics), Pukekohe, New Zealand

Joe Bastardi, BSc, (Meteorology, Pennsylvania State), meteorologist, State College, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.

Matthew Bastardi, BSc (Meteorology, Texas A and M University), Florida, U.S.A.

Ernst-Georg Beck, Dipl. Biol., Biologist, Dept. Biotechnology and Nutrition Science, Merian-Schule, Freiburg, Germany

David Bellamy, OBE, English botanist, author, broadcaster, environmental campaigner, Hon. Professor of Botany (Geography), University of Nottingham, Hon. Prof. Faculty of Engineering and Physical Systems, Central Queensland University,  Hon. Prof. of Adult and Continuing Education, University of Durham, United Nations Environment Program Global 500 Award Winner, Dutch Order of The Golden Ark, Bishop Auckland County, Durham, U.K.

Andre Bernier, Meteorologist, WJW-TV, Cleveland, Ohio, U.S.A.

Sally Bernier, Meterologist, Cleveland, Ohio, U.S.A.

Mi.I.Bhat, Professor (Tectonics, Department of Geology & Geophysics, University of Kashmir), Sprinagar, Jammu & Kashmir, India

Sonja A. Boehmer-Christiansen, PhD, Reader, Dept. of Geography, University of Hull, Hull, United Kingdom

John W. Brosnahan, Vanderpool, Texas, U.S.A., Research Physicist (Atmospheric Remote Sensing), atmospheric science consultant, founder of Signal Hill Research, LLC., former President of Alpha/Power, Inc., founder of LaSalle Research Inc., founder of Tycho Technology Inc.

Reid A. Bryson, Ph.D., D.Sc., D.Engr., Senior Scientist, Center for Climatic Research, Emeritus Prof. of Meteorology, of Geography, and of Environmental Studies, University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin, U.S.A.

Dan Carruthers, M.Sc., wildlife biology consultant specializing in animal ecology in Arctic and Subarctic regions, Alberta, Canada

George Chilingar, PhD, Professor, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering of Engineering, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.

Ian D. Clark, PhD, Professor (isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology), Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Charles A. Clough, BS (Mathematics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology), MS (Atmospheric Science, Texas Tech University), former (to 2006) Chief of the US Army Atmospheric Effects Team at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland; now residing in Bel Air, Maryland, U.S.A.

Michael Clover, PhD (experimental  nuclear physics); Computer Simulation, Senior Scientist, Science Applications International Corp., San Diego, California, U.S.A.

Martin Coniglio, Meteorologist, KUSA-TV, Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.

Paul Copper, BSc, MSc, PhD, DIC, FRSC, Professor Emeritus, Department of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

Allan Cortese, meteorological researcher and spotter for the National Weather Service, retired computer professional, Billerica, Massachusetts, U.S.A.

Susan Crockford, PhD (Zoology/Evolutionary Biology/Archaeozoology), Adjunct Professor (Anthropology/Faculty of Graduate Studies), University of Victoria, Victoria, British Colombia, Canada

Dalcio K. Dacol, PhD (physics, University of California at Berkely), physicist at the US Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, D.C, U.S.A.

Dave Dahl, BSc (Meteorology, Florida State University), Chief Meteorologist, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS/KSTP-TV, Saint Paul, Minnesota, U.S.A.

Willem