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Have you seen the National Academy of Sciences update on Climate Change for 2008?

by Guest62232  |  earlier

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Please read and respond with your comments.

http://dels.nas.edu/dels/rpt_briefs/climate_change_2008_final.pdf

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  1. More speculation based on the exaggerated effects of atmospheric CO2.


  2. that chart they have with the co2 and temperature being almost the same for like 50000 years is such a lie......... last heating period wasnt caused by co2..

  3. reading ...I'll be back

    P. 2 is full of c**p.

    Lots of unfounded and unsupported suppositions.

    still reading...

    P.4&5 show horrible partials of graphics...show the whole chart or none of it!  very misleading and again many assumptions with absolutly no foundation (consensus is not science)

    still reading...

    ARGH!!!!!!

    My eyes are bleeding!!!!!!!!!

    This is not science...its propaganda!!!!!!!

    I need a towel to sop up the blood...

    Just becuase this pamplet says it, does not make so.

    still reading...

    I just cant continue...sorry...

    Prediction with out perspective is Ludacris!

    Remember, consensus is not science.

    edit:

    Richard, I am making no argument.  I am simply reading and responding as you requested.  Yes, I am bias.  I would not claim otherwise.  Unlike this Psuedo-Scientific National Academy.  They appear to be a lobbyist group in a lab-coat.

    Well guess what,  I wear a real lab-coat.  When I make a report I dont truancate the graphs.  I dont offer opinoin w/o qualifying that it is my opinion, and dont make prediction based on insufficient,scattered data.

  4. It's a nice report with good basic information.  Just a summary of the existing climate science knowledge, but it would be a good read for the many people who don't understand the basic science.

  5. This document is a summary.  The introduction sums up a bleak picture.  I will take Newt Gingrich at face value and as a conservative, will take this story to heart.  Let's start doing something.

    There is a growing concern about global warming and the  impact it will have on people and the ecosystems on which they depend. Temperatures have already risen 1.4°F since the start of the 20th century—with much of this warming occurring in just the last 30 years—and temperatures will likely rise at least another 2°F, and possibly more than 11°F, over the next 100 years. This warming will cause significant changes in sea level, ecosystems, and ice cover, among other impacts. In the Arctic, where temperatures have increased almost twice as much as the global average, the landscape and ecosystems are already changing rapidly.

  6. Oops.  I just erased what I had written.

    I see that you are demanding that any who challenge this pamphlet are expected to spend hours compiling supporting data while you and the authors of the pamphlet provide none.

    I do not care to comment under those expectations.  Do your own research.

    If you would like a discussion where *I* can put forth any claim without substantiation and *you* must thoroughly substantiate any disagreement that claim, let me know.

  7. I love how the scientific illiterates around here think they're more knowledgeable on this than the membership of the National Academy of Sciences.  They are the epitome of arrogant ignorance.

    I hadn't seen this before.  It's a very well done and accurate presentation of what we do and don't know, and should help motivate some level of action.

    Edit:

    King - this is a brochure, just the "Highlights of National Academies Reports".  It's meant for public consumption.  If you want to read the full scoop of the science that went into this, then go educate yourself by reading some of their peer reviewed journal articles:

    http://www.pnas.org/

    Or better yet, read the latest IPCC report on the Physical Science Basis of Climate Change.  That includes the collective knowledge of the best 619 active climate scientists in the world, who read through mountains of peer reviewed scientific journal articles.

    http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report....

    And since you're boasting about you attire ("lab coat"), perhaps you should enlighten us all to your credentials?

  8. I hadn't seen it.  It's a nice summary.  That is if you like relevant accurate factual material written by people who know what they are talking about.  

    For the rest of the world, there's

    http://heartland.temp.siteexecutive.com/...

  9. If it were on softer paper, I would use it for toilet paper.

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