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So, I've been a vegetarian for about six months and I supported PETA, because I love animals. My love for animals is what made me become a vegetarian in the first place. But recently I came across a website, http://www.petakillsanimals.com/index.cfm and now I don't know what to do. I've read alot of articles on the website and I don't want to support PETA if this is really what they do. So if you could look at this website and tell me your thoughts and give me some advice it would be much appreciated.

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  1. PETA is a business. Even organizations that promote worthwhile causes operate like a business. They will always consider what is in the best interest of the company. PETA is huge. It's not some small grassroots campaign. It's big and there is nothing, essentially, wrong with that.

    Some people discovered PETA's dirty laundry and aired it out for all to see. Everyone, I would hope, is already aware that PETA can be extreme in it's views and actions. That its advertising campaigns are meant to shock and horrify. There are some people that would classify PETA is a terrorist organization. This is not news.

    You should only, ever, do what you think is right. How do you feel about how PETA goes about getting its point across. For me, personally, PETA goes against a lot of what I believe in. Change should come about peacefully, not because some screaming mob harassed school children and women in fur coats. Nobody should be harassed into changing their beliefs.

    Do you believe what the website is saying? Do they provide proof? Everyone has an agenda. Anyone can put anything on the internet and make it look official. People should always think for themselves.


  2. What you've found is an industry group in sheep's clothing. That's a Rick (Richard) Berman group, "Center for Consumer Freedom" aimed at discrediting and marginalizing organizations such as PETA. Among some of their other pursuits is Mothers Against Drunk Driving, Greenpeace and more.

    Who do they work for? They work for Monsanto, The meat, dairy, restaurant industries, the fishing industry, Wal-Mart, Tyson, Cargill, Dean Foods, big tobacco, the soda industry and the beer and alcohol industry among others.

    Some of their scamming astroturf groups?

    Center for Consumer Freedom Umbrella:

        activistcash.com

        cspiscam.com

        physicianscam.com

        fishscam.com

        neoprohibition.com

        animalscam.com and petakillsanimals.com

        obesitymyths.com

    The Employment Policies Institute

    American Beverage Institute

    Employment Roundtable

    Center for Union Facts

    Employee Freedom Action Committee

    Isn't it funny they name themselves after scam so much since they are such scammers?

    In fact, I just found one of the tag team postings last night on the Boston Globe website. David Martosko works for Berman's scam operation and is actually in the Penn & Teller anti-Peta episode (that Penn & Teller are that easily manipulated and/or in the pockets of big industry and helping them to play us for fools has caused me to lose all respect for them -- better fools than tools).

    Under Dave Martosko who is mocking Greenpeace is a comment by Gavin Gibbons commenting for the National Fisheries Institute which is another industry front. He is ironically attempting to throw doubt on a poster by saying that poster is making ad hominems even as his buddy above has made one after another about Greenpeace. This time they're trying to obscure the issue of the collapse of the fish stocks but they've also been very active trying to get people to believe there is no mercury issue or PCBs/Dioxins (Monsanto deals) in fish and they've even tried to convince pregnant women that the harm of mercury isn't worth having mentally delayed children (trying to scare us) which they say can be avoided by eating even more fish (on that one they tried to claim the March of Dimes was behind them).

    See, they can't fight the groups like PETA and Greenpeace on facts so they try to do it through mocking. That the industries would resort to these tactics shows just how much more scummy they are.

    Richard Berman is known as Dr. Evil, or as I like to call him, Beezlebub. He starts "charitable" groups such as Obesity Myths, or Fish Scam and solicits donations via advertising spreading the ideas the industries want you to believe. It's all about deception.

    But then it gets even worse. The "charities" which get most of their money from the industries themselves such as Phillip Morris and Coca-Cola, then hire Richard Berman's consulting group, Berman & Co. to put together the campaigns. So, essentially he has drummed up his own business out of scamming all while manipulating the government rules, tax structures and the general public.

    Berman's group under an entirely new incarnation has even been caught in the last few weeks spreading rumors in an attempt to get Gordon Smith re-elected as a senator.

  3. Hmm. There was always something about PETA that I never liked or supported, and this further enhances my feelings toward them. Thank you for posting this and I hope people come to realize how hypocritical they can be.

  4. Do not worry, a lot of jurks say PETA says peta stands 4,"people for the eating of tasty animals." Do not worry that is NOT what peta stands for.Ok?

  5. Notice that the complaints were about specific members, not really the organization itself.  They don't mention all the good that they really do.  And do you wonder if the meat industry finds that site.  It's very one sided and it doesn't bother me.

    I work with PETA sometimes and I am not going to stop just because some people don't like them.

  6. There are many better places than PETA to put your time and money.  I seldom go to any of those websites because they are so biased either pro or con.
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