Help? Only for breeders or GSD fans!?

Question

I have a female German Shepherd, that was born in America. We have an offer from another GSD owner that is willing to have his male mate with her. The male was born an Germany, and imported here (to America). If they mate, would we be able to say their puppies are true GSD's? You know, from Germany? Or, no? Please explain to me how this decision works or at least why or why not, please?! Thank you!

Answer 1

GSD have major problems with their hips. Has your girl had her hips x-rayed, same for the sire i.e. the male dog from Germany?

DO NO BREED without health testing your dogs. Is your *********- registered with the AKC, same for the male dog. If he is not registered in Germany  he cannot get registered in the US, hence your pups will not be registered!!

Answer 2

They will be true GSD's. Just American and German lines. Do not breed if you are going to misrepresent the breeding. They will NOT be from Germany. Any buyer worth his salt will suss you out in a minute. You could end up in legal troubles.  

Answer 3

If the pups are born in the USA they are USA  born german shepherd dogs,that is all there is to it..You can't say they are from Germany.You can say the father is if he really came directly from Germany.Do not ever misrepresent a breeding you do!Also if you want to register with the AKC both the dam and sire need to be AKC registered.

Answer 4

If they are both pure bred Shepherds then they will have pure bred pups.  The birth place has nothing to do with it.  You need to also consider the Kennel registrations.  They must be the same.  This is the only way to be able to register the litter.  If your female is AKC then the males should be also.

You should also have in writing the agreement as to how the studding will work too. Will you pay a one time stud fee?  Will you give him first pick of the litter or will you co-own?

Lots of very important things to go over before you even decide to mate your female with any dog!  

  

Answer 5

Sorry but you do not need to be breeding anything.  If you were knowledgeable of the breed in the least you would know how lacking this situation is.  If your b*tch is a GSD, it doesn't matter what country she was welped in - does being born in America not make you a 'true' human being?   Also, there are already a lot of ignorant back yard greeders making poor quality puppies and until and unless you learn that you do not have a good quality stud dog owner 'offer' to breed to your b*tch, then you don't need to be breeding.   You as the b*tch owner should have complete health, temperament and structural evaluations done on her and learn enough to be able to knowledgeably find the best possible mate for her and not just some conveniently offered nothing dog - being whelped in Germany does NOT make a dog any quality at all and your not knowing that shows how very limited you are in knowledge about the breed.    Europeans export a ton of crappy dogs to silly Americans who don't know any better that to think that any breeder of quality would send their good dogs across an ocean to someone they don't have a clue about so the odds are the male isn't worth breeding to either.

Answer 6

If they are both registered, purebred GSD's, they are BOTH "true" GSD's.  Birthplace alone makes no difference.  And if the pups are born in the US, they can't very well be from Germany :).  

The birthplace of the parents is nothing more than an interesting bit of trivia, when speaking with potential puppy buyers.  The QUALITY of the dam and sire is MUCH more important than their place of birth.  What do you have to show that your dog is breeding quality?  And you should ask the same of the stud owner.  Show championship?  Working titles?  

Furthermore, both dogs should have their hips and elbows X-rayed and OFA'd, to clear them for hip dysplasia.  You should also know the health history of every dog in your females' pedigree (and the instance of hip dysplasia)....same with the stud dog.  

Methinks if you're just entertaining someone's "offer" to breed his dog with yours, perhaps neither of you have done quite enough preparation for breeding.  Good breeding decisions are often years in the making.  

It is not a decision to take lightly- and the GSD is a breed that can be highly prone to crippling and severe genetic health disorders; more so than many other breeds.  There are at least 132 recognized genetic disorders common to the breed. They have been quite popular in recent years, and thus subject to a lot of over-breeding.....it's very unwise to slap 2 dogs together for puppies, without doing ALL the research.  Even if the dogs appear healthy, their genetics may not be.  

Breeding GSD's should only be attempted when you know the full health history of the dam and sire, and have had both dogs fully tested and cleared for their own health issues.  This means more than just a "vet checkup".  

http://www.total-german-shepherd.com/GSD...

Not to mention, the considerations of all the unwanted dogs in shelters....walk into most any shelter in the US and it is full of GSD's and GSD mixes.  How do you plan to ensure your pups won't end up in a shelter one day?  How do you plan to ensure your pups won't be used to breed more potential shelter dogs?   I am genuinely not trying to be rude, though I can imagine you'll get some snippy answers here.  I am just trying to point out the big picture- every choice we make, has an effect....and all those unwanted dogs in shelters came from somewhere....many from well-meaning, but unaware folks who didn't realize how many dogs end up in shelters (an estimated 1 in 4).  If you choose not to breed, you won't be contributing to the problem.