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Here is the main problem with knife crime.. do you agree?

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We all know the kind of people who carry and use knives are useless gutter trash. But their are probably many young people with knives who don`t really want to carry them but if they`re told to stop then "who goes first".. that is the question. They will keep carrying knives for protection. What we need is a nationwide knife amnesty so they all disarm at the same time!!

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  1. My personal view is that, the kids who carry them for protection, so to speak, NEED this governement to get a grip and PROTECT them from thugs. The government needs to stand up and say that when you commit a crime, U WILL PAY for that by proper punishment, not just a slap on the wrists. Take the unruly kids and drug scum and MAKE them work for a living, in a boot camp if needed. There is no deterant anymore for anyone. You can do what the h**l you like and nothing really happens. Kids say that prison is easy cos its like a hotel for most, they have better living conditions in prison than at home! (not all, but some do)

    I know a child, 9. He was getting bullied at school, we went to the head teacher and nothing happend! NOTHING! This carried on for a few months, the boy joined a gang at school for his own protection- AT 9 YRS OLD! Three weeks later the bully broke his arm, he fetched a screwdriver to school to stab the boy and school still could do nothing, he was suspended for 2 weeks. Where is the protection for the 9yr old? school or the gang? The 9 yr old boy views were, well at least when they get me, i have some other people to help me out. This is crazy world and needs stopping!

    The boy is not my kid either!


  2. hear hear!!!! and then prosecute with a jail sentence anyone found carrying one.

  3. Problem is you can't completely withdraw all weapons. Kids will turn to kitchen carving knives and bathroom razors if they have to, and this is coming from a teen who doesn't carry any kind of weaponry.

  4. Knife crime is a continuation of rules and regulations regarding bringing up children.

    Years ago, when I was a child, we were deterred at school by the threat of the cane, where as today, there is none.  We were in awe of Mr Plod the policeman, where as today there is no awe, just sheer dislike from an early age.  We also had respect for our parents, simply because if we didn't  we would get a 'clip round the ear', today parents are not allowed to 'smack' their children.

    Children need guidance from an early age from all of the above, and lets face it, through school there is so much protecting children that teachers are seen now as joke to the point where they are not even taken seriously at times so where are these youths of today to get their respect from?

    I am NOT saying all children are the same, I am NOT tarring every youth with the same brush, I am simply saying that times have changed for the worse it seems.  We used to respect our parents, our teachers and the police force, today it seems they just get in the way of what they want to do and are jeered at.  From an early age we need to learn right from wrong - politically correctness and health and safety laws have gone over and above sanity levels and I fear that knife crimes are a result of just that.

    (I am NOT ancient by the way, 43 years young - scary things have changed so quickly)

  5. the boy scouts carry a knife [ don't know about now ] but would that mean they are gutter trash , people that install carpets carry a knife , are they gutter trash ,  chefs at some of the best restaurants carry knifes are they gutter trash , O J simpson  carried a knife  is he gutter trash

  6. The main problem with knife crime is that this Government is failing in its duty to protect us. They have failed to build more Prisons. They talk a lot but nothing seems to happen.

  7. there's been several knife amnesties before and 1000s of lethal knives were handed in but the problem still exists. You're right in saying a lot of people carry knives for protection and have no intention of using them unless they're defending themselves. The problem is changing kids from thinking it's cool to be a gangster and to stop all this $hit where people get stabbed because they're in the wrong part of town. It's taking the 'respect' thing a bit too far and is completley out of hand now. It seems parents, schools and the police can do nothing to stop this either. As for adults carrying knives for the sole intention of harming someone -  they are just scum.

  8. Yeah, this is the problem with most things. Like the arms race in the Cold War, or rock paper scissors.

  9. good point about amnesty, BUT do NOT steryotype like that.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. There is no chance that is going to work. if as you say the people carrying the knives in the first place are "useless gutter trash" do you really think that they are going to just hand over their knives because of an amnesty?

    I think the actual problem is the media, its getting everybody scared, and the fear is making people get hold of knives to protect themselves, when in reality its just adding to the problem

  11. no. the main problem with this sort of crime is it's messy.  We can't have all these dudes going around the street and slicing each other up , and getting my streets all bloody.  We need to make it easier for them. I say, have an "exchange yo knives, fo' guns day"...that way, a nice little hole could keep things cleaner.

  12. You mean like the gun amnesties that we have every couple of years.

    LOL

    yes amnesties really work well don't they

  13. "Useless gutter trash"? I'm dismayed by your ignorance. Don't stereotype us folks who carry around a blade. A knife is a tool, and a d**n flexible one at that - carrying one around for years has taught me that. While some carry and use them for violence, there are many who don't. You seem to view knives as solely a weapon, like a gun. How very mistaken you are. Knives are still relevant tools in todays society - don't insult those of us who have the common sense to recognize that.

  14. it would not work as the trash that are using knives would not give them up

  15. to be honest i dont think a knife amnesty is gonna work. people that carry knives only do it to try be the 'hard man'. think the police should step up on random checks of the public that look like they may carry knives. i mean if you look at it its mostly young men that carry knives and actually go about stabbing others. if someone is caught with a knife they should be dragged to jail right away and not given an early release as its really an intention of harming someone. its complete and utter stupidity of the person carrying a knife.

  16. They've done regular knife amnesties, none of which have had a significant impact. The majority of stabbings are carried out using kitchen knives not machetes. How exactly does getting kids to hand in knives they have on them stop them from just picking up another one at home?

    The difference between guns and knives is that it would THEORETICALLY be possible to ban and remove all guns. Knives are vital tools which are used by everybody. We need to have knives to feed ourselves. Everyone has large carving knives at home, which could easily be used to kill. But we use them responsibly. You cannot 'hand in all knives'. What do you propose we do? Buy all our food in bite size pieces and eat with plastic sporks?

    These kids that really want to kill will just hand in one knife and go pick up another. Your point about stupidity does have some relevance though: That's what all this is about. Some people just don;t have the ambition, foresight or intelligence to think of useful and productive ways to spend their time. All they can think to do is drink and fight. The education system in this country is destroyed and is churning out illiterates with straight As. The family unit is dead, with teens out until 2am and broken families being replaced by gangs who roam the streets like ferral animals. There is no strong authority: even the police have become impotent and powerless.

    It's a lot more complicated than 'Hand in all knives'. Incidentally, if the carpet fitters, joiners, artists, chefs etc all have knives (as well as every home in the country) what's to stop the kids just picking up another one? The need a sense of social responsibility, they need education and if they still behave like thugs... they need a slap.

    And please don't assume that everyone that disagrees with you is an idiot. It's an especially patronising viewpoint when there's such a huge flaw in your argument.

  17. there will always be knives in every kitchen in the country

    so a nationwide knife amnesty wouldent be much use

    we should educate young people and ask if they are carrying a knife cos they are scared or angry or any other reason

    we should speak to them before we make a decision about what to do

    there are hardly any jobs and young men especially wont back down any more they fear nothing

  18. they tried that and thousands knives were handed in, sadly there are millions more, in kitchens, in shops and easily accessible to all. Tougher lines could be taken by this useless

    government, who  come up with one stupid idea after another without actually doing anything.

  19. We've had knife and gun amnesties and they don't work.  We've also had years of sympathy and sorrow for our vicious crininals in that they are still seen as victims.  That doesn't work either.

    Perhaps we should try something new and radical like actually punishing these thugs and killers.  Kids shouldn't need to carry knives to protect themselves if the Police and the Courts and the Government did their jobs properly.

    As a taxpayer, I would rather see vast sums of money spent on building more prisons than spending money on MPs inflated salaries and perks or the bloated, greedy public sector which includes all the quangos and produces nothing which improves the lives of the electorate.

    There is obviously room to cut down on the benefits being paid out, the troops could be pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan and the red tape, which stops the Police doing their job should be abolished, along with PC.

    This country wasn't always like this.  Apart from well known 'bad' areas people were safe.  That was in the days when the Courts dished out punishment, when schools and parents maintained discipline and certainly where children were not allowed to rule the roost.  Today's feral children were not hatched nor did they appear by magic.  They are the direct result of liberal non judgemental thinking and now we are scared of our own children. What price progress!

  20. Do you really think these nutters would hand over their knives ? Why not go the whole hog and ask the druggies to hand over their drugs. If you think either will happen you are living in cuckoo land.Sorry to be so blunt but its the truth.

  21. no...don't agree with your reason.  it's deadbeat parents breeding deadbeat kids...& the rest of us have to suffer!!  

    if i caught my children with a knife...they would be sorry!  but - my children would not dream of it...they have respect for people & property...that is how they were raised!

    edit to your edit...what an insulting person you are mate!!

  22. never happen

    that's why i carry a gun

  23. No. the real problem is that people cannot defend themselves adequately when faced with an attacker with a knife. Either they cant run fast enough or they just cant cut it.

    Now those who want to cause trouble within their little gangs ( if they stab each other I dont care)

    but if they try to stab innocents then they have to be stopped!

    No amnesty will work that is pie in the sky!

    I think if the troublemakers all stab each other at the same time - then we will see progress!!!

  24. The problem is you don't know how many people out there are walking round with knives on  them so you could never be sure if you had an amnesty that the the people you really need to hand in their knife would do so

    There is only one way to even begin to sort out this knife problem and that is a proper and fitting punishment,bring back flogging and make prison life a nightmare...thing is that we have become a nation of total softies so we let the scum in society walk all over us,it will get worse and worse until we get a government with the bal*s to use shock tactics against the cowards who kill with knives

  25. Yes but the dangerous people don't hand their knives in.

  26. The problem with 'knife amnesties' is they rely on a gesture of goodwill and trust from those involved.  Unfortunately the really 'dangerous people' wouldn't ever give up their knives or weapons as they think they are above the law!

  27. first they need to stop people from shooting people out of stupidity

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