Hold'em: What would you have done?

Question

5 players left on a 9 player sit 'n go, 3rd place and up get the money. I'm short stacked at $500, and the blinds are 200/400. I'm in the big blind, and after posting, have $100 left. The player under the gun folds. The next player goes all in, he's the next shortest stack at $1000. He's been playing very loose all tourney, and often makes calls with marginal hands, like 9-6 off suit. The next two players, with larger stacks, also go all in. Both have been playing well and catching good cards. The player in the small blind, probably the best player of the three, has the other two covered. To me, it goes like this:

Player 5: Fold

Player 4 (1000): All in

Player 3 (1200): Raise all in

Player 2, SB, (1400): Raise all in

Player 1, BB, Me, (500)

My situation: call or fold? I have 8-7 off suit.

My thoughts: Pot odds are nearly infinite here on my final 100 at 16:1. If there was only one caller, I should call anything no matter what.

However... (con't)

Answer 1

lay it down to many all-ins.

did u call or fold?

Answer 2

You have no real choice but to call, since you don't even have enough for the sb next round.  To be honest, even if someone has a hand like QQ, a 78 has the best odds of drawing out, especially if it's suited.  Your best shot is to have a different type hand to those who are going all in, as it is likely they have similar  hands.

Answer 3

play for third place like the loser that you are...long live the dolphins and an undefeated season

Answer 4

I would call just to get the action.  Are you in it to win it?

Answer 5

If your only acceptable goal is to go for 1st, calling is a no-brainer.

If you're trying to money, the correct play was to fold.

If player 2 wins, you make the money.

If player 3 wins, player 2 is down to 200, and you can still money if you survive the next hand.  Even though that's a long shot, it's better than the odds of beating 3 players who love their hands enough to risk their tourney lives.

Honestly, the only REALLY bad outcomes are player 4 winning, which leaves you in 5th (or 4th with no cripples), or a split pot.  The ONLY situation that could justify you calling off your last 100 here is if you have such a great read on your opponents that you are certain that the 2 strong players and one nutbag would ALL have A-high, with no pairs.

In reality, even nutbag has to have a hand, because you don't bet at a $500 stack holding a $400 BB on a bluff.  Given that the nutbag knows that, and that the two solid players ALSO know that and called (bad calls under the circumstances, at least by player 3) you HAVE to assume you're up against a premium pair, an A-high and possibly a mid pair or another premium pair.

One last note:  If you call and WIN, you have 2000, player 5 is still loaded (I assume, given everyone else's chip count,) and whoever took 2nd ALSO has ~2000, plus you haven't moneyed yet (unless player 2 took second, in which case you are 3rd of 3 players, which is exactly where you would've been if you'd just folded.)

Any way you look at it, I think you're playing results here when you second guess your original play.  The right move was to fold.

Answer 6

With only enough left to cover half the SB next hand?  You have to push with any 2 cards, even if it's 7-2, and hope to triple or quadruple up.  

If you fold and win the next hand, even if everyone is in the pot, you only win $500 which puts you right back where you started.  Pushing when you have $500, you could potentially raise your stack up to $2500 if you win and everyone calls.  That still leaves you short stacked, but not as dangerously so as $500 has you.

Answer 7

The vast majority of the time, as you said, with 80% of your stack in the pot, you have to be in the hand - no questions asked.

But in this rather unlikely situation where you are almost certainly beat by at least one of three previous all-ins, fold and hope Player 2 drags you into the money with him.

Answer 8

As Mentioned before you probably should have gone all in on the hand before the BB, but that is not your question.

Let's look at some considerations.

1. You have odds to call with the chance to quadruple up, and your cards are probably live.

2. If you lose you are in 5th and out of the money

3. If you fold and the big stack wins you sneak into the money

4. If you fold and the Big Stack only knocks one person or if neither player is knocked out you will be all in next hand.  Chances are all players will fold to the BB and that might give you a chance to win the hands heads up, but you will be all in soon and might still come in 4th or 5th.

With all that said I think you have to take your chances and fold and hope the Big Stack knocks both players out and you back into the money.

Answer 9

I probably would've pushed the hand before.  I know that's not what you really asked, but in that situation, I'd probably fold it.  In sit 'n goes, you want to make the money more often than not.  I would imagine the range of hands to be small pair, huge pair, good ace, bad ace, and something like king high.  There's a good chance that someone's knocking out two players depending on stack size.

Answer 10

If I was brain dead enough to fold I would put on a skirt and never play again.

You should think about the latter.

Answer 11

without reading passed the part the blinds are 400 and you have    100 left if you fold,

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Answer 12

This is a tough one, in that most player's first instinct would be to just go all in, since you only have $100 left. But, since you don't have a really strong hand, and you've already had 3 players go all in ahead of you, you've got to think that you're going to be way behind going into the flop.

I would just eat the big blind and fold, then hope that 2 of the 3 players lose, which as you said would put you in the money.