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Horse Safety? Your opinions?

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I am thinking about changing barns because some things are going on in mine that I do not believe are particularly safe. Other people tell me that I am just being overprotective and overreacting..which I do tend to do. So here is a list of things that I think are unsafe. Please let me know if you also consider these unsafe.

1. My horse is in a fairly large pasture/stall combo. In the pasture there are trees and close to the trunk of the tree, there are some gopher holes. I think "Holes!!! My horse is going to trip and break his leg!" but other people say the holes are too close to the trees for him to step in them.

2. Near one of the pasture gates there are about ten old tires just sitting on the ground. I have no idea what these are for, but the barn must want them there because every time I move them they get put right back. This is another leg danger in my opinion.

3. In the pastures and around the arena (It is all grass around the arena so I walk my horse there) there are chunks of cement. Some are small, like peaches, and some are big, like a dinner plate. Some are flat and some are more rounded and they are not usually in the arena...But what if a horse is running in the pasture and kicks it?

4. Chain link fencing. It is at least 15 years old and rusty and has some sharp sticky-outy parts. Also, there is this sad, dying tree on the inside edge of one of the pastures that the barn encircled with thin chain link about two feet from the trunk. During the night I can barely see the "fence" and so wouldn't that mean that a horse could run into it, get tangled up, or have the fence attach to the horse since it doesn't seem to be tightly secured (there are loose edges)

5. The arena has holes in it. Not really on the part you ride on, but on the outer edge. These holes were made from the sprinkler water so they do grow

6. The arena is hard and un grated. They occasionally grate it (maybe once every two months?) but it hard and packed down still. I never really noticed this, having never ridden on nice footing until recently, but now I notice the dips and unevenness and the hardness. I jump my horse, so having a hard, bumpy arena just sounds like an injury waiting to happen.

7. There is c**p in the arena. There is hay, sometimes sticks, a small plant (???), small piles of mysterious dirt, horse p**p EVERYWHERE, and once a trail of almonds in a zig zag pattern (no one ever figured that one out) There is also a p**p mountain right in the middle because that is where the barn dumps it all after they clean the stalls. This is then grated down and used as footing. Which only happens once every two months. And there are about fifteen horses there. Yeah, it is a pretty big p**p mountain.

8. Horses are turned out in the arena. I have to wait to use the arena because the hormonal pregnant mare they turn out there absolutely hates me (who knows why..I give her carrots) I am not sure why they do this when they have three open and differently nice pastures available. There are usually two or three horses in there. They are the reason for most of the poops and the hay in the arena.

9. There is a horse there who is not being ridden anymore. Why not? Who knows! He is a perfectly nice thoroughbred, super calm, a great jumper, and only six...And he has been out of work for almost six months...I don't know when the last time his hooves were trimmed, but it has been a while. They are long and FLAT. He didn't have the greatest feet to begin with, but now they are soft looking, chipped, and spread out. And he still has his shoes on. They have been on there for quite a while so the nails probably aren't too embedded in his soft hoof anymore.

10. Two of the new horses are mysterious. No one knows who their owner is or what the horses do or if they are even broke to ride. The mares just sit in their stall all day, never getting exercise or grooming. Isn't that something that can cause colic? And they both seem to be fairly young, probably less than ten.

11. A two year old wears a halter 24/7. It isn't a safety halter, but in the words of fellow boarders, there is nothing for her to get caught on

12. Polo wraps on a pasture horse. My horse is being eaten alive by flies, especially on his face and legs. Would it be dangerous to put polo wraps on him if he is in the pasture? Could they catch on something? I do have fly spray but it doesn't do the job.

13. Putting a horse in a stall with a saddle on. This is something that a "trainer" does to the horses frequently. Once, she used my horse WITHOUT MY PERMISSION to give lessons to autistic children (By the way, I have a flighty, very green Arab who needs at least an intermediate rider, if not advanced) and when I arrived my horse was tied in his stall with a western saddle on and bridle (with the reins hanging). Other horses that she used were not tied and were walking around their stalls freely with saddle and bridles still on.

This is pretty long, but I am sure I still have more that I have temporarily forgotten about. Thanks if you read it all

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  1. You need to move. You know right from wrong. Some people don't have any common sense. Sounds like you do!  MOVE.

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  2. I have a couple of things to say.  First, thank you so much for being a responsible pet owner; KUDOS to you.  It is so nice to see when someone takes on a responsibility and takes it very seriously.

    Second, get your horse out of there and fast.  I would love to own a horse, but it's a huge responsibility, and just not at the point in my life to take it on.

    Just knowing your horse is in that situation, with all those issues, would make me (like the other person said), run from that place.

    Good luck to you and hope you find resolution to your problem and FAST.

  3. Don't walk away from this place - RUN

    It is a disaster waiting to happen so don't be there when it does.

    Get out NOW.

  4. wow thts a lot haha i dont think ur overreacting...i mean we all ride because we love horses and we certianly dont want them getting hurt cuz then we cant ride of course so i agree...there dangerous

  5. if it all happened recently my guess is that it will keep going downhill.

    get out of there as quick as you can!

  6. WTF? that is THE worst barn ever! print out all these problems, and all the others you've got and make a very formal complaint! all those are rediculous! and you actually PAY to board your horse there! if nothing happens with the complaint, move. tell everyone you know what''s going on nad hopefully something will happen about it. and that tihng where they used your horse for autistic kids WITHOUT permission? then left her in a very vulnerable state in her stall after? that is just stupid. so stupid. these people dont deserve to be near horses, let alone own a barn! and those poor horses left in their stalls without excercise? do they ever get turned out anywhere? if not, that is a chargable offence for animal cruelty. i read this thing in a magazine about  horse that was locked in a stall fed stale and mouldy bread rolls and really dirty water, not getting out of that hellhole for 16 years. anyway, try to do something about whats going on :) (im not a crazy yelling person :D )

  7. Okay I'm gonna say it... GET OUT OF THERE NOW!!!!!!!!

  8. If at any time you feel something is unsafe for your horse then you need to make the choice to move or not.  I'm extremely over protective of my horses and i don't even allow people to touch them when I'm not there.  I personally would move my horse.

  9. GET OUT OF THERE NOW!!! Before your horse gets hurt. Not only does it seem completely dangerous but I can tell you're unhappy about it. If you're unhappy with your barn and things aren't getting better that should be enough to make you leave. If anyone ever touches your horse again without your permission then take charge and set them straight. Your horse could have been injured. I don't think you're overreacting at all. I would react the same way. One of those smaller things. Maybe its ok but add anything else to it and you get the heck out of there. I agree with you. its completely dangerous. I hope (if you decide to leave) that you can find a great barn to board your horse. Good luck!!!

  10. Get the heck out of there, and don't worry about overreacting - you're not! Find somewhere that you and your horse can both be safe and have fun - best of luck to you!

  11. Look the next stable over good before you decide to move your horse there.  Also you should have a signed agreement of what is expected of the stable and what they expect of you.....rules will keep both parties on the straight and narrow.  No borrowing horses or equipment.  Don't pay attention to what others do.  It is the responsibility of the stable manager

  12. Get out!  Get out now!  I don't think you are overreacting, any ger)ood horse owner would do the same.  I have been in a similar situation, and let me tell you, get out before it gets any worse.  You have every reason and right to leave that barn and find a new one.  It does not matter if a grand prix rider used to borde there, you should be treated equally.  Once you find a new (better...way better) barn, tell the owners or your current barn tha you are fed up with this poor care and c**p.  They will probably get all nice and cheery and say they will do all this stuff for you, just so you'll stay at their barn.  As a horse owner (good have their hood one anyway...) you don't need this c**p, I mean, I'd rather have my horse break it's leg in a good enviroment where I trust the people working there.  I know that might of sounded weird, but any owner would rather have ther horse be able to stand up and lay down in the field without them being trottled by a random tier. Once agian, you are not over reacting, get out of that barn while you still can...well, before your horse is up to it's face in his own s***.

  13. The truth is if you aren't comfortable in the place you are at right now, then you aren't going to rest easy until you find a place that you feel your horse is safe at. I would've packed and left a long time before someone rode my horse without permission, but I do understand that with the economy that people are not always able bodied to.

    I'd find yourself a nicer more reputable barn. Stop into a few and just sneak a peak around. I know with a lot of barns if they know someone is coming to check things out in hopes to board(same with home sellers/buyers) the place will clean up right fast before the visit and junk up after. To be sure, just as if you were to purchase a horse, visit a few times to make sure that your horse is going to be in a better condition then before.

  14. Yikes! I would have left a long time ago!! Wow have you brought this up with the owners?? Find a new stable asap!

  15. Ok Very long Question but i understand

    I would say that this is not a very good boarding barn situation. On a range 1 being horrblie and 10 being (show barn) from what you said i would give it a 4. You are not over reacting, i wouldn't allow my horse there. Although If you aren't happy with this barn don't keep your horse there. I had a very simular encounter once and ended up switching barn. I would talk to the owners and see what they say and just maybe they will work with you.

    Good luck,

    Equest.Equine

  16. Some are dangerous and some are downright unnaceptable.

    Move yards as soon as you can.  Asking people on the yard you are on is pointless - they obviously think the same way.

    If one or any of those things were on my yard with my horse there would be something said about it.  But not a single one of those things you have mentioned happen in our yard.

    It sounds like a hellish environment for those poor animals.

    I would move to a smaller barn and one that seems more cared for and the horses more kempt.

    It is not wrong at all to do the best for your horse so dont listen to your detractors.  You are a good owner and not at all over reactive.

  17. Cassie - you've answered your own question -- move the h**l out of that barn, NOW!!

  18. Move before there is a call saying your horse is not getting up because he looks like he has a broken leg!  

  19. The holes by the trees, the tree in the dark, those are really dangerous situations if your horse has ample room in the pasture and normally horses have better night vision than we do.

    Get the rest of the owners to complain about having the arena drug once a week at least.  

    As for the other things they do there, that's their concern.  

    The thing that REALLY concerns me is the fact that they USED your horse without permission!  IF something had happened to the rider, you could have been held liable!  What would have happened if your horse had gotten away and gotten hurt or hurt your tack or equipment?

    Once I'd found out about that, my horse would have been gone from there in a heartbeat!

  20. I didn't read your whole question, but from what I read, I can tell you are unhappy there. From your description, it doesn't sound very good. I think you should find a new place to keep your horse. I don't think things are going to change there and make you happy.

  21. ok i only read to the part about the mountain of poo in the arena, that barn sounds very unsanitary and unsafe for a horse to be living there

    i would worry about all those things if i was you, and what if your horse does get hurt there or cut, it is so unsanitary with all the poo and junk around that it could hold a lot of germs and cause an infection in a wound

    the tires are a BADDDD idea, esp. if this is in the south where mosquitoes tend to thrive

    old tires are a great place for the to lay their eggs esp. when it is rainy

    you should relocate to a better boarding barn


  22. All of your concerns are legitimate, some are minor and are not enough to make you leave but others are definitely!!!

    I have a question - do you ride at hedgewood?? I HAVE HEARD things like this about previous boarders there. If not well here's my opinion anyways...the first 5 or so questions with concerns on the grounds can be discussed but don't seem very bad. The concerns on unexcersised horses or uncared for horses are BIG and she used your horse without your permission!!!!! Had your horse recieved so much as a misplaced hair you could sue her!! That is huge and i would advise leaving... even if things weren't so bad you aren't happy there.

    I am going through a similar problem with barns and trainers :( it really stinks but i hope u work things out!!

  23. I would remove my horse from this place asap....you are not overreacting...they are dangerous and downright ignorant.

  24. I'd have been long gone by now.

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