How To Cheat At Rugby?

Question

I play U16 Rugby Union, Prop, Maybe Flanker soon, I jus wants some hints on how to get advantage without getting caught, for instance, how to stop the opposing prop from driving in the scrum, just please tell me different ideas on how to so this, or annoy the other side?, ***** BEST ANSWER GETS 5 STARS *****

Answer 1

Its people like you the ones who make people get hurt badly in rugby. I hope so much you break your neck or backbone and end up wishing you had had the necessary skills and played rugby by the rules. You are obvioulsy not a titular player in your team, and your only way to shine is outside the boundaries of rugby rules, I mean, laws.

Give your 5 stars to this answer, I dare you

Answer 2

You've asked this question already, Peeled Onion!!! Check the answers there. Like I've told you already, you can expect more than a few smacks in the mouth if you try the "cheating" caper in the front row. You obviously don't have the skills or experience to pull it off.

As other have already said, concentrate your efforts on technique & strength. Playing in the front row is like learning a trade - it takes many years of playing experience to become any good at it.

Zacburrows (below), ohhh how I'd love to pack down against you!!! More fresh meat to slaughter.........

Gatorade, there is only ONE referee in a game of rugby, plus two touch judges, but at this kid's level, the touch judges won't be making any reports to the ref.............

Answer 3

Mate - at your age you should be learning the correct techniques.  Cheating is for experts.  However: If you're a loose-head prop - and your side have the loose head - you don't NEED to cheat.  The ball will be dropped (by your own scrum-half) between your left foot & your hooker's right foot.  Just lean forward & slightly to the right, hook your left foot behind the ball, get your left knee in the way of the opposing tight-head's right knee - and hold.  The opposing pack will have to physically push you back over the ball you've just won.

If you're a tight-head prop: On your own feed, you're there to hold the line.  Push it forward a bit if you can, but don't let them reduce the leverage your left-hand guys have on the ball.  On their feed?  If you're a tight-head prop & they've got the loose head, the only way you can counter them winning the ball is to drive forward and inward (to your left) & try to upset their balance.  Don't do it too soon, or the ref'll ping you.  In the end, it's all cheating from the tight-head side anyway.

If you wanna be a flanker:  Cut back on the bulking-up you'll need for the front-row; Get REALLY fit & fast; Improve your ball-handling skills by about 75%; Prepare to be a Jack-Of-All-Trades at the breakdown: you might need to be an acting-scrum-half, an impromptu fly-half, or an acting-unpaid centre.  All in the day's work for a flanker.

Answer 4

Not again! All the advice from the last time you asked this question didn't help? Everyone telling you to stop trying to cheat, but rather to train hard and play hard not good enough for you? Well then, learn the hard way. Cheat and get smacked. Start pulling clothing, grab a fistful of hair, hold back players without the ball, fall on a tackled player after he got rid of the ball. At your level of play the refs probably won't see you, and the TJ's can't point out your dirty play. Keep on doing it until someone rearranges your face. Maybe then you will came back to all these answers that told you how to be an effective player.

Answer 5

This is a stupid question. Cheating in rugby will get you kicked in the ribs. How stupid are you that you don't think the 15 other opposing players and 4 or so referees wont notice?

Answer 6

Eye gouges and punches to the other teams face. But only if your the biggest guy on the entire field.

Answer 7

I'd suggest you hurry up and move to a flanker position.  The sooner you are out of the front row, with the potential to cause someone an injury the better.

At least there your cheating will only result in a penalty and the ire of your team mates.

Do the graft and stop looking for the soft option.

Answer 8

Cheating is near on impossible in rugby, it will either get you beaten by the opposing team or worse sent off...its not the right word...to give yourself an Advantage in rugby its all about small things, think about what you usually do and add to it to give yourself the advantage, for example (i play flanker, so no prop help im afraid) on a defensive scrum a great one is, if your playing open side, is to stand up as soon as the ball is out and stepping in front of the opposing flanker, just step into the line between him and your fly half, it protects your fly half and gives him time, and if done with a look of vancancy or confusion, even the other flanker, let alone the ref will know your gaining an advantage....watch your back if you pull this too many times though. Another is in line out, if your the back row at the end of the line, take a few small steps back and bend your knees, if the ball does not come out yours, you canimmediately make a direct attack at the opposing flyhalf, checking before hand so your ready to sprint at him as soon as the opposing scrum half has the ball...if you win your in a good position to get in there fast and support. Advantages can range from continuous little nudges, standing on the opponents toes, phyching them out, or unneeded aggresive tackling, this can lead to you looking better, and forcing the opponent to make mistakes. Also because there so small, compared to actually breaking the rules, even if the ref does see, or an opposition complains, they cannot really do anything. When your on the pitch, just let your imagination go wild...

Answer 9

There is no way, at U16 level that you will be able to consistantly "cheat" and get away with it.  Your best bet is to focus all your efforts on your technique.  I play prop and I have been a lot smaller than most props since I was in U19 but I get away with it when my technique is right.  You MUST have a flat back and a low body position.  Keep your feet shoulder width apart and level with each other (not 1 forward, and 1 back) and knees bent.  Drive in HARD on the engage and get those basics down and you'll be 90% of the way there.

Just thought I'd edit my answer to address a couple things I read in the other answers... One guys was talking about using your left knee to block an opposition tight heads right knee... yeah, I dont think this was written by an experienced prop.  Due to the head positions of the front rows, the opposition tight heads knee will always be closer to the middle of the scrum than your left knee... so if you move your left knee inside his right, your balance will be SEVERELY thrown off and I can GUARANTEE you that the scrum  will wheel and disintegrate almost every time, which is exactly what you want to avoid on your feed... also, if the loose heads left knee comes forward, they run the risk of you using your right arm to lift it off the ground instead of binding on their back... which is illegal but effective if they get away with it... learnt that the hard way.

And secondly, the remark about you causing injuries when you mess around in the front row was VERY true.  You really do not want to mess around with tricks and experiments at your age.  Older players sometimes get away with it because the have experiience and are surrounded by experienced players.  Full internationals have been severely injured so you can see that a scrum is not the place to s***w around even when you are one of the best in the world.

Another tip for good technique though was to make sure your shoulders never go below the level of your hips... this will help all your force to go forward, rather than down into the ground.  Seriously... great technique will beat strength and "cheating" almost all the time... especially when the ref puts the cheater in the bin or the coach sits him on the bench for getting penalised.

Answer 10

Cheating is probably the worst idea ever. If the ref doesn't see it, the opposing team will. And they will retaliate. Work on your basic skill set.

Answer 11

Peeled Onion, son your asking the wrong question (again).

There is a ship load of stuff going on at scrum time and much of it comes down to knee jerk reactions - techniques that are honed and developed over time. These things are intuitive and can only really be learned with time in the saddle.

There are also things you do as an individual and things your forwards do as a collective effort. Even guys like Hayman and du Randt need support from the other front rowers and their locks to get a good drive on. As with all team sports: success of an individual is rarely about me me me.

You're not going to get the quick fix easy answers that I sense you are looking for by tapping out a five word question on a keyboard.

Love the game - play the game.

Answer 12

I've played front row since i was 4 years old, hooker until i was 12 and prop until now, 12 years later.   The best thing you can do is when you're tighthead, roll your shoulder onto the back of his neck when he engages. Basically, so that your shoulder is moving back when he's coming in. Rol it over and push it down on the back of his neck. Make sure your arm is right down his back or the ref will call you on it. It'll probably send him to the ground, it won't break anything but it'll hurt a lot and make him a little ginger to do it again. Also, 4 little dodgy moves that i use every game: 1) headbutt him on the engage 2) Put your fingers in his armpit, grab his hair and twist it. 3) Wedgie him 4) at the base of your neck there's a little triangle of bone on either side with a soft middle. Put your hand on his back and stick your thumb in the middle of the triangle. Works everytime.  Good luck kid

Answer 13

i have no idea

Answer 14

Rugby like Cricket you simply abide by the rules play it hard but fair.