How are the Christians in Orissa ( India ) since 24,August ,2008?

Question

Friends ,let us know that The Constitution of India guarantees Religious freedom to all Indian citizens equally ( except under any fraudulant manners) . If there is any such fraudulant religious activities it can be very well brought to the notice of the Department of Justice .Since India has a very beautiful Constitution there is no possiblity for any type of riots and peacelessness, if every one respects the Indian constitution

Answer 1

Accept what happened in...........not correct

but its not the religion to blame on.!

its the  dirty  politician  who  do  this so that  they can hold their seat

and end of the  day its  the  poor   people  of both religion get  effected

not the freakz  enjoying their luxuary

Loopholes.....'

Political influence  make the  police stop doing their  job

police  will do only what their  are been told to do

be"cause  if they dont they will be  transfered or depromoted

Answer 2

Alas...Only nobody asked about the Hindus..not the media not the politicians and not even the common Hindu man !

Answer 3

Do people really believe that after such a crime is comitted and the crimnals put a marker around the scene of the crime to point to him and his justification.....indians are still in the ancient, innocent times of 'story telling'....and 'believing in fiction'.

Answer 4

They don't respect the constitution.  Mobs of Hindus chased 60,000 Christians into the forest.  They will burn Christians homes, beat them up, burn their Bibles, anything.

Answer 5

Secularism is the refuge that Christians and Muslims have misused to it's fullest potential. Now it is no more a sacred word. Secularism shall never be the monopoly of Hinduism alone. If others do not respect it, we need not.

Where were all secularists when Shre Laxmananandji Saraswati was murdered along with his followers. Never judge Hindus by what ever is happening in Orissa. That is not our Dharma. But if pushed to the brink, we would retaliate like nobody ever did.

Answer 6

The Christians aren't forcing the truth onto the Indians so it's perfectly fine.

Even with the preachings, it's the citizen's choice whether to believe or not. So it's perfectly legal. If it was by force or threat/blackmail, then it would be illegal.

Don't try to pick out against Christians for that, that's a bit of racism.

Answer 7

Iam giving a view on the below points

1) Accusing someone without proof.

2) Supporting organisations such as the VHP RSS and Bajrang Dal.

3) Rumours of Christians attacking Hindus.

4) The Graham Staines and his sons burning and aftermath.

5) Conversions. Hindu to Christian and Christian to Hindu.

6) Pasting links to various websites to justify themselves.

7) Who are the people to be actually caught and punished.

1)Accusing a community without any proof and then going and killing, raping and burning them is a very dangerous move. At this rate tomorrow, if any member from a community dies, rumours can be spread and your killing would be justified.

2)How can anyone support the killings, rape and murders committed by the VHP, RSS, and Bajrang Dal. It is surprising that people are justifying their actions and supporting these organisations.

They are just a front for the BJP to come to power. The party which has gained popularity after the Babri Masjid demolition.

No Hindu or temple has been attacked by Christians, but look at the number of churches destroyed and Christians burned alive.

3)Rumours are being spread that Christians have killed the Swami Laxmanand, even though Maoist and Naxals were the culprits.

Rumours are being spread that Christians are killing Hindus.

Christians have never been involved in communal riots. Even when Graham Staines and his sons were burned alive, the Christians did not retaliate.

4)Rumours are being spread that Christians have killed the Swami Laxmanand .

Dont accuse Christians of murder without proof.

But everyone knows that it was a Hindu who burned Graham Staines and his sons alive in Orissa in 1999.

When Graham Staines and his sons were burned alive , were any Hindus killed in retaliation.

Not a single Hindu or temple was attacked. Only protests were held and the culprit was caught.  

Get proof and punish the guilty person. Spreading hatred and killing innocent people is not the solution.

5)Everyone accuses Christians of conversion.

Visit ISKCON, Sathya Sai Baba ashram,Mata Amritananda ashram,Ravi Shankar ashram and various world famous Hindu priests places, you would find so many foreigners and Indians who were Christians and have converted to Hinduism.

They have liked the people and the message being taught over there and converted to Hinduism. Similarly if a Hindu likes the Christian message he is free to convert.

Charges of forced conversion of Christians in ashrams can be levied on others as well, but we dont make this an issue, since Jesus taught to live in peace with everyone, love your neighbours as yourself and, to forgive ones enemies and have love for GOD.  Learn to live in peace with everyone.

6)People have pasted links to various websites, to prove their points. To counter that even I can mention that in any popular search engine website you type "attacks on Christians in India" and you will get hundreds of websites showing attacks on Christian institutions and murders of Christians.

7)Whichever individual indulges in violence riots and murder should be punished, whether Hindu, Muslim, Christian or any other religion. Catch the culprit and punish him, but do not destroy properties and kill innocent people who have never done you any harm.  

Answer 8

Hey dont think that churches not being paid for doing somerational jobs in india!!!! The huge foreign black money are being used to break the faith and believe of Indian society.

We dont need other religion --- i have seen them converting forcefully in the name of holy father!!!!   Only 800 rupees are being paid to the poor newly converted one and then they break the torn the TULSI tree (holy tree in the home garden) -- U ALL HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM DESTROYING SMALL BELIEVES VERY IMPERCEPTIBLE<<

EQUALLYTY IS A FAKE TERM --- NO LEAVES OF A TREE ARE SAME!!!

WHY WE DO NOT DESERVE A HINDU COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!!

EVERY RELIGION HAVE THEIR OWN!!

Indinesia once was the densely populated hindu country !! NOW IT IS DENSELY POPULATED MUSLIM COUNTRY!!!!

The last Hindus had -- PERHAPS U KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO TIBBET!!

NOW INDIA IS OUR LAST STAND(though it is not purely hindustan) ... AND I PERSONALLY DONT WANT TO LOOSE MY MOTHER  INDIA , I WORSHIP IT .

NO MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIAN SAYS INDIA IS THEIR MOTHER -- we all know they r invaders --

PLEASE DONT CHEW AGAIN THE MOSTLY CHEWED GUM OF SECULARISM --

THEY R PAYING FOR THEIR DIDS.No GOVERNMENT RULES CANT CONTROL A MASS OF PEOPLE WHO R COMMITED TO DEATH -- AND THEY R COMMITED TO DEATH BECAUSE THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT THEIR EXISTENCE!!!

It is religion takeover my dear -- open up your eyes .. Nehru , gandhi , jinnha,, r the sinners ... Ask a soldier for about them ... Soldiers spit on their name .. 30,000 soldiers died for mistakes of nehru, Shastriji and Indira in the wars of Roulpindi, Tripura, Sealcoat,Bangladesh ,, we OWN at the cost of more than 30000 soldier but nehru decides to retrete from Roulpindi, Indira decides to retrete from Bangladesh, --- h**l shame on them and shame on AHIMSA.

Mothers who lost their childs knows the pain and the fellow soldiers --- GO AND TALK TO THEM..

THIS IS NOT AHIMSA THIS IS SUICIDE.

I am giving a small example of RESULT OF SECULARISM mind -- HINDI MARRIAGE ACT .. -- While hindu had the most balanced everlasting faith bonded family ,, but h**l -- their is no muslim or christian marriage act -- where there is much history of divorce and Talak!!!!I can gurrentee u there will be no such act !! They will not simply obey that.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MY INDIAN CONSTITUTION

i have to say -it has been manipulated too many times for selfish reason -- to make votebanks pleased!!

Beware my friends --their will be no time to retreat this time, or we will be in the grave with our secular constitution.

EDIT::

Look  at the link -- they r playing with our deities ... and we CONVENT EDUCATED HINDUS ARE PRAYING FOR THEIR SAFETY??? ADDING THE LINK--

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0070...

                   these r translated in tribal language and newly english educated tribal areas to subjudge our god and to show that Jesus is great ... Everything going on - in Orissa is the result of their dids ... so its ok. They are not obeying  Indian constitution .. why should we??????????????????????????????????????...

Answer 9

The Christians in Orissa are  very HAPPY because

-The Hindu Guru and his disciples were shot dead.

-They have blamed innocent Maoist for the murder.

-Hereafter, start their conversion of downtrodden people at top gear without any trouble

-Can invite more foreigners to come to preach Christianity

-Would get millions of dollars from foreign countries

-Can build more and more Churches

-Plan to rapidly convert the remaining people and declare Orissa as a Christian state

-Could apply for reservation status without much difficulty and get all employment benefits from the government

-Can freely kill all cows /cattle and export them to foreign countries

-Plan to move to other states looking for innocent people for conversion.

Answer 10

Friend, the Christians in Orissa are still suffering, even till today. People are forced to re-convert (or lose their life). This is also forceful conversion. What you say is absolutely correct and I totally agree with you that, ALL forms of fraudulent religious activities or conversions and re-conversions should be brought to the notice of the Department of Justice. If only we learn to respect and follow our own Constitution we will have a beautiful nation of people all striving to make India/Bharat an example of a prosperous and shining nation.

Hoping for a peaceful India where everyone breathes the air of freedom, and is given an opportunity to be their best.  

Answer 11

"Religion Not the Crying Need of India

Christianity must always be ready for good criticism, and I think that you will hardly mind if I make a little criticism. Christian brethren of America, you are so fond of sending out missionaries to save the souls of heathens. I ask you: what have you done and are doing to save their bodies from starvation? In India, there are 300 million men and women living on an average of a little more than 50 cents a month. I have seen them living for years upon wild flowers. During the terrible famines, thousands died from hunger but the missionaries did nothing. They come and offer life but only on condition that the Hindus become Christians, abandoning the faith of their fathers and forefathers. Is it right? There are hundreds of asylums, but if the Muslims or the Hindus go there, they are kicked out. There are thousands of asylums erected by Hindus where anybody is received. There are hundreds of churches that have been erected with the assistance of the Hindus, but no Hindu temples for which a Christian has given a penny.

Brethren of America, you erect churches all through India, but the crying evil in the East is not religion. They have religion enough, but it is bread that the suffering millions of burning India cry out for with parched throats. What they want is bread, but they are given a stone. It is an insult to a starving people to offer them religion; it is an insult to a starving man to teach him metaphysics. Therefore, if you wish to illustrate the meaning of "brotherhood," treat the Hindus more kindly, even though they are Hindus and are faithful to their religion. Send missionaries to them to teach them how better to earn a piece of bread and not to teach them metaphysical nonsense.

[At this point, Swami Vivekananda said that he was not feeling too well that day and so wished to be excused. But, we read in the newspaper report, "there were thunders of applause and cries of ‘Go on,’" so Vivekananda continued:]

The earlier speaker said something about the miserable and ignorant priests in China. The same may be said of the priests in India. I am one of those monks who have been described as beggarly. That is the pride of my life. I am proud in that sense to be Christ-like. I eat what I have today and think not of tomorrow. "Behold the lilies of the field; they toil not, neither do they spin." The Hindu carries that out literally. Many gentlemen present in Chicago sitting on this platform can testify that for the last twelve years I never knew whence my next meal would come. I am proud to be a beggar for the sake of the Lord. The idea in the East is that to preach or teach anything for the sake of money is low and vulgar, but to teach the name of the Lord for pay is such degradation as would cause the priest to lose caste and be spat upon.

There is one suggestion in the earlier speaker’s paper that is true: If the priests of China and India were organized, there is an enormous amount of potential energy that could be used for regeneration of society and humanity. I endeavored to organize it in India but failed for lack of money. It may be I shall get the help I want in America.

I came here to seek help for my impoverished people and I fully realized how difficult it was to get help for heathens from Christians in a Christian land. I have heard so much of this land of freedom, of liberty and freedom of thought, that I am not discouraged. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen." - Swami Vivekananda.

Answer 12

Indian Constitution is really great and people friendly but it is not respected by hindu fanatics. Hindus want all minorities to be killed in India. They want Muslims to flee to Pakistan, Christiancs to convert to hinduism, they killed thousands of Sikhs. They Vanished Budhists from india.  

Answer 13

I think that they would not think of killing people of other faiths as they did during the Holy crusade in Europe in early days of spreading christianity by force with the help of the state. they are alleged to e responsible for the killing of an hindu activist and this soret of belief arises out of violent actions and speeches against other faiths .                      

                    .Now also they seem to think that the state might help them for the sake of their votes .No more crusades in India at least now ! Abuse and threat will not help conversion but repulsion only.

                  Every religion should keep itself off the trck of every other religion and they shall refrain from abusing or assulting one another .

                 Let them not do anything mischievous to spread the violence to other states which are comparatively peaceful now .

Every one shoud understand that violence begets violence only .The child  of violence will not be peace but violence only.

Answer 14

Taking advantage of the poverty of the people and  the loopholes in our system, christian missioneries are trying to convert forcebly poor tribals in the remote areas in the garb of social service.. We can find their presence in any remote areas where illeterate poor tribals live. Can they do the same thing in the areas where muslim population are in majority.  Are they having their branches like in India, in Arab countries, Pakisthan, Afghanisthan.